Twistedshabazz Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 For those who got theirs any order from relapse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 On one listen in, I think I'm comfortable saying that this is stronger than Y&G for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clerk3745 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 For those who got theirs any order from relapse? Mine was from relapse, the pledge pages says tuesday for my marbled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebilljim Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I just picked the purple marble up from Newbury Comics, and have it playing now. Y&G took a while to grow on me, but this one I think I already dig even before the first song is done. Also, the artwork/packaging I think might be my favorite of anything they've done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrackt Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Indeed there is, side A near the label. It's just a looping sound. Kinda ethereal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Some of these songs sound a little too...Thrice-y for me? Anyone else get a bit of that feeling form this album? Edit: I'm still enjoying it, but...it just doesn't have that Baroness feel I look for as much as I'd hoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achillesstand7 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 ^^There was one song towards the middle of the album, I can't remember which, that definitely had kind of a Thrice sounding chorus. But, I thought it sounded cool. I like both bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum7 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Struck out twice at local shops here. One was "sold out" since they were holding multiple copies for people claiming them on Instagram, one hadn't gotten any yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 ^^There was one song towards the middle of the album, I can't remember which, that definitely had kind of a Thrice sounding chorus. But, I thought it sounded cool. I like both bands.I know exactly the one, it was the one I was listening to when I typed that originally. I like a couple Thrice albums alright, but I rarely go out of my way to listen to them. Purple is pretty good, but it's definitely on the lower end of Baroness records for me.Edit: I guess I like it quite a bit actually, because it's the first album in a long time that I've listened to twice back-to-back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steventangent Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Thrice? Gross... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdwell Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Production could be better IMO but it doesn't detract too much. Jammed this about four times yesterday....no clue what part of the production could be better? Do you want it to sound like a slick radio-rock record? Only issue I have with production is the nod to Pink Floyd in Chlorine & Wine with the "uncomfortably dumb" line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anomynous Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Almost everything about the production could be better. Nearly the entire thing is brickwalled, just barely below the point of clipping. Fridge Fox and throwgncpr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 It is definitely brickwalled. The digital copies sound even worse, which makes me think the vinyl got a separate master, but overall it's just too loud. I was really afraid of that when I found out Dave Fridmann was doing the record. In general, the sound is good, if he would just dial everything back a notch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadreckoning Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Almost everything about the production could be better. Nearly the entire thing is brickwalled, just barely below the point of clipping. I am not much of an audiophile and don't have that great of an ear, but the mp3's are seriously brickwalled. I have not heard the vinyl or cd versions yet, but are they better? I would hope that i could rip higher kps mp3s from the CD. The songs posted on youtube didn't sound that bad, but ones i donwloaded from the Pledge music were muddy and distorted on the heavier parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdwell Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 It's a loud rock/metal record? Fully utilizing pre-amps is turning them up until they start to clip and then dialing them back a smidge.... I hear plenty of dynamic range on this recording and was surprised that the mix didn't sound muddy. Haven't listened to a digital copy yet though This production doesn't sound terribly different than their previous output to me.....drums are a bit different, guitars are a little cleaner sounding in the mix to me, nothing drastically different. Clearly production is all subjective....maybe I'm just in the minority in enjoying this production style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 It's a loud rock/metal record? Fully utilizing pre-amps is turning them up until they start to clip and then dialing them back a smidge.... Yeah, it's a rock record, but that doesn't mean it has to be cranked to clipping. This album could have been a lot worse, and Dave has definitely pushed records way over the limit before (see A City By The Light Divided). Even though this album still has some range, the drums clip a several points. As I said, the vinyl sounds better, and that's why I think there may be separate masters. All digital copies (streaming and download) sound bad, IMO. I'm curious what the CD is like (I assume similar to the digital copies). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 ACBTLD is my favorite album as far as production goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwgncpr Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 ACBTLD is my favorite album as far as production goes. This blows my mind. The album is beyond brickwalled. I like the songs on the album, but I can't get a few minutes into it without turning it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I love how OVERLY fuzzed out it is. Even the keyboards are distorted. Perfect style for that band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyhambone Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 obviously plenty of people like Dave Fridmann's signature style - usually guarantees it to be almost unlistenable to me if his name's involved. I liked a lot of Y&G so I've been hopeful on this release (even left room for it in a box I made to house all my Baroness albums). I'm skeptical now but will prob pick it up at some point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markok Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Just came here to talk about the brickwalling on the mp3 I have, if the vinyl is the same I would never buy this. Birdwell, no disrespect, but you have completely misunderstood what brickwalling means. Its the mastering process done at the very last step where among other things the overall sound level is determined, brickwalling means that pretty much everything is at its maxed level, the quiet parts are as loud as the loud parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdwell Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Just came here to talk about the brickwalling on the mp3 I have, if the vinyl is the same I would never buy this. Birdwell, no disrespect, but you have completely misunderstood what brickwalling means. Its the mastering process done at the very last step where among other things the overall sound level is determined, brickwalling means that pretty much everything is at its maxed level, the quiet parts are as loud as the loud parts. The technical term for what you're referring to is "Compression" it has nothing to do with distortion or gain staging.Additionally the gripes people have with production and production engineer in question here has nothing to do with the Mastering Process or the Mastering Engineer "Brickwalling" or "Overly Compressing" the master. It's totally possible to give the mastering engineer a mix that's too loud for them to do much with, but if the digital version of this album sounds like digital clipping is taking place on certain instruments, it falls on a producer/production engineer, if the full mix over all sounds like it's being digitally clipped, it's either poorly digitally mastered or a really poor rip. If your LP sounds fine (no clipping) and the digital sounds like there's clipping happening.....that's not a producer/production engineer's fault....that would be the mastering engineer for the digital version vs the mastering engineer for analog version....or the engineer cutting the lathe was just phenomenal. If you have a component system set up with digital files playing through the same amp and speakers as your turntable, play a digital copy of any other record you own and then play the same album's LP and listen for decibel discrepancies. Then repeat this process with this particular title.....if the LP plays at a softer volume over all then it's probably the mastering on the digital files....if they sound the same and you have the same distortion/clipping in the same places...safe to assume they used the same master for both and that could also put blame on the producer/production engineer for making the mix too loud and not leaving enough head room for the mastering engineer. Again, the only issue I have with production is the nod to Pink Floyd....which I'm sure is funny to most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markok Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Heh, this album (at least the digital version) is compressed=brickwalled to death and Im sure the guitars are distorted among other things like on every rock record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayCauseDeath Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Yeah, it's a rock record, but that doesn't mean it has to be cranked to clipping. This album could have been a lot worse, and Dave has definitely pushed records way over the limit before (see A City By The Light Divided). Even though this album still has some range, the drums clip a several points. As I said, the vinyl sounds better, and that's why I think there may be separate masters. All digital copies (streaming and download) sound bad, IMO. I'm curious what the CD is like (I assume similar to the digital copies). A city by the light divided is the absolute worst recording I have ever heard in my life. It ruined what would have ultimately been a really great record. Made it unlistenable throwgncpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourning Wood Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Anyone heard anything about when signed guitars, test pressings or hand written lyrics will ship? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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