The Butcha Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 The new track could easily be a continuation of Red Forest. But, I don't hate it. I hate everything else about this release so far. Hopefully the rest of this record really shines through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrewest Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 The new track could easily be a continuation of Red Forest. But, I don't hate it. I hate everything else about this release so far. Hopefully the rest of this record really shines through. Totally true. I just finished up listening to Red Forest, and "When the Big Hand Buries the Twelve" could seamlessly go right into "Solstice". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Just heard back from Mike: "Hey Greg. Black only in the US for now. If Metal Blade hears enough flack about it, I'm sure they will produce something for those stateside. Thanks for the interest" "Oh, and it's gatefold." So, I assume that means the EU versions are too. Time to lambaste Metal Blade.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrewest Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Not sure if this works on POs, but if you sign up for the EMP newsletter, you allegedly get a 10% discount voucher. Wish I knew that before placing an order... http://www.emp-online.co.uk/newsletter/ EDIT: This only works with the UK website. Each country needs to sign up separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I already tweeted at MB earlier today. Have at it, boys. Even if this was a limited color, deluxe, embossed edition, I would still be hard on paying $35ppd for it. It was the same for Deafheaven. But at least that album pulled out all the stops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadDonut Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Yeah just to piggy back on you guys, the album font is crap and looks horrible. I'm surprised since Charlie did this. It's just weird seeing something like that out of him. He's incredible and this just doesn't seem like something he would do. Metal Blade can suck it. Price point, selection, etc is terrible. I'll wait and see if they have something for a record release and try to grab one then. If not I'll try and catch a show and just pick one up there. Also, I heard signing to Metal Blade can make you do crazy stuff. Like taking steroids and getting swole then plotting to have your wife murdered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vool Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Fuck it, I like the song, I'm still excited, as long as the whole album isn't entirely this formulaic. It's a lead-off song though & I think it's a good way to start it off. This! Can't wait to hold it in my hands...the tree never disappoints! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamha21 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 This! Can't wait to hold it in my hands...the tree never disappoints! Secretly, I'm breathing a sigh of relief I won't need to collect 11 variants...yet. And yes Eff Metal Blade. At least it should sound good on black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemulis Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 where are you getting those Australia shipping quotes? Those prices are correct. i paid just over $80AUD for 2 records. It's too bad that it is shipping around May 27th because I'm heading to the states on May 25th to see family and friends. I could've brought some over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drds89 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I like the track, but the riffs don't quite deliver like the famous outro of Malabar Front. Generally, I'm immune (uncultured) to art /color coordination, very rarely go ape over album art. I like my Avatar though. *Not* immune to being bent over and gouged. If the rest of the album is meh, such that it's not worth the effort or storage space, it will get an EZ pass like Toundra IV. Red Forest was my guitar album of 2012, so Red Forest part 2 will make this a tough decision if it stays at $35. I'll go on the record as saying that I don't think they need to change their sound or formula, add vocals or strings or gimmicks if they can conjure the necessary riffs. The air guitar kind of riffage. I'm not losing any sleep if I don't end up owning this on vinyl ... TheGhostOfRandySavage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicondevil Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I like the track, but the riffs don't quite deliver like the famous outro of Malabar Front. Generally, I'm immune (uncultured) to art /color coordination, very rarely go ape over album art. I like my Avatar though. *Not* immune to being bent over and gouged. If the rest of the album is meh, such that it's not worth the effort or storage space, it will get an EZ pass like Toundra IV. Red Forest was my guitar album of 2012, so Red Forest part 2 will make this a tough decision if it stays at $35. I'll go on the record as saying that I don't think they need to change their sound or formula, add vocals or strings or gimmicks if they can conjure the necessary riffs. The air guitar kind of riffage. I'm not losing any sleep if I don't end up owning this on vinyl ... Yes. I want this record, but I can live without it. I will most likely buy it when someone posts up a 7.99 sale on Amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I like the track, but the riffs don't quite deliver like the famous outro of Malabar Front. Generally, I'm immune (uncultured) to art /color coordination, very rarely go ape over album art. I like my Avatar though. *Not* immune to being bent over and gouged. If the rest of the album is meh, such that it's not worth the effort or storage space, it will get an EZ pass like Toundra IV. Red Forest was my guitar album of 2012, so Red Forest part 2 will make this a tough decision if it stays at $35. I'll go on the record as saying that I don't think they need to change their sound or formula, add vocals or strings or gimmicks if they can conjure the necessary riffs. The air guitar kind of riffage. I'm not losing any sleep if I don't end up owning this on vinyl ... Well said, Don. I still think Toundra IV is badass though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcha Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I wonder how many PO's they have gotten for this so far. If Mylene put this PO up yesterday I'd have probably dropped $50+ on this. At least my bank account is happy about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I wonder how many PO's they have gotten for this so far. If Mylene put this PO up yesterday I'd have probably dropped $50+ on this. At least my bank account is happy about this. Mylene probably would be close to selling out this pre order for sure. They would have sold out the two colored variants that would probably be awesome like the deluxe pressings, would have a couple black left, and our wallets would be ok since they would be $24.99 at most, and discounted for bundles. Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vool Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Mine wouldn't....therefore happy And let's face it: the fan community for any Post-something in Europe is probably way bigger than in the US... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Mine wouldn't....therefore happy And let's face it: the fan community for any Post-something in Europe is probably way bigger than in the US... Oh for sure. Plus the majority of the better post rock bands, and labels are out there as well. It's like post rock Nirvana over there. All we can do is group buy to save. Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vool Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 What did you pay in total for shipping in the group-buy? Any order from Germany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliewagers Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Goddammit. I couldn't resist. Too many people texting me--including members of the band--telling me about how hard everyone's shitting on my cover, so I caved and broke my "Never look at Vinyl Collective" rule. A few things. The artwork is comprised of photographs I took myself while traveling in Iceland. Before my trip, I convened with the band and we all agreed it would be awesome to use photos from the trip for the record. IE: "Iron Glacier" especially fits with the glacial subject matter. The cover image is actually a photo of an iceberg field, and there's another photo from this same location inside the packaging. You can see Metal Blade used some of these photos on the teaser video.I see a lot of complaining about the typography: which is actually blind-embossed on the gatefold jacket. We wanted the type fancy die-cut, but it was actually rejected from the pressing plant for being too intricate. So instead I got everyone on board for the type on the cover to be invisible, just embossed into the paper stock. There'll also be a sticker on the shrink-wrap/poly-bag, but that's a minuscule detail not worth mentioning.As for the "deluxe'ness" of the packaging, you get an embossed Gatefold jacket that's printed on a sturdy uncoated stock. Two inner sleeves that are actually printed wth metallic inks with a glossy finish, and an etching on the d-side. Oh, and the USA and EUR versions have different d-side etchings. I hand-drew the illustrations for the etchings, based on photos from the rest of the packaging. I was thinking about possible hosting a giveaway online to giveaway one of these original drawings. Though the general attitude in this thread makes me think no one gives a shit about the art. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That's all I can take for now. Time to try and be productive after having all winds taken outta my sails. That cover art sucks that font on the cover art is ghastly. that cover, how could they if they get rid of the text i might consider a little too Deafheaven-y with the font there, boys... Also, the cover sucks. Ugh fuck everything about this so far...really not digging the cover with the horrid font... Horrible album cover.Oh how the mighty have fallen. how atrocious that cover looks Can you believe how average that track is? Can you believe Charlie designed it? Can you believe they [Metal Blade] has the audacity to charge $30 for a basic release from a newly signed band? And unfortunately, I agree. Yeah just to piggy back on you guys, the album font is crap and looks horrible. I'm surprised since Charlie did this. It's just weird seeing something like that out of him. He's incredible and this just doesn't seem like something he would do. brianmorgante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vool Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Goddammit. I couldn't resist. Too many people texting me--including members of the band--telling me about how hard everyone's shitting on my cover, so I caved and broke my "Never look at Vinyl Collective" rule. A few things. The artwork is comprised of photographs I took myself while traveling in Iceland. Before my trip, I convened with the band and we all agreed it would be awesome to use photos from the trip for the record. IE: "Iron Glacier" especially fits with the glacial subject matter. The cover image is actually a photo of an iceberg field, and there's another photo from this same location inside the packaging. You can see Metal Blade used some of these photos on the teaser video. I see a lot of complaining about the typography: which is actually blind-embossed on the gatefold jacket. We wanted the type fancy die-cut, but it was actually rejected from the pressing plant for being too intricate. So instead I got everyone on board for the type on the cover to be invisible, just embossed into the paper stock. There'll also be a sticker on the shrink-wrap/poly-bag, but that's a minuscule detail not worth mentioning. As for the "deluxe'ness" of the packaging, you get an embossed Gatefold jacket that's printed on a sturdy uncoated stock. Two inner sleeves that are actually printed wth metallic inks with a glossy finish, and an etching on the d-side. Oh, and the USA and EUR versions have different d-side etchings. I hand-drew the illustrations for the etchings, based on photos from the rest of the packaging. I was thinking about possible hosting a giveaway online to giveaway one of these original drawings. Though the general attitude in this thread makes me think no one gives a shit about the art. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That's all I can take for now. Time to try and be productive after having all winds taken outta my sails. Thanks, Charlie, for clarifying and making me drool even more over the release... I still can't believe so many people who know your work complained after just seeing a picture...well, in the end, I'm sure that everybody who complained will be happy as fuck to own this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadDonut Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 To be honest Charlie, this is the only thing I've ever "disliked" from you. I did say you were incredible in my post I love the actual art just having a hard time with the typography. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markwatson23 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Hopefully these look better when we have the record in hand. It's good to know the back story of the art too. Also not trying to make you feel bad about it, I'm a big fan of a lot of your work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 its art. its going to get criticized and critiqued. part of the game, no matter who is the artist. as an artist myself, getting shit on daily is just how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David The Gnome Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I'd much sooner shit on the price than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 its art. its going to get criticized and critiqued. part of the game, no matter who is the artist. as an artist myself, getting shit on daily is just how it goes. It's how you know you're doing something right.I've always been a fan of you, Charlie. You do absolutely amazing work. Even if I don't like this current piece doesn't mean I think any less of you or your abilities. Art is subjective, just like music. Some people will like, others won't. Don't think any less of you or your talents though. Excited to see the etchings (if I ever buy the physical release). The album cover however is the least of my concerns. Keep on keeping on, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRHews Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 That's all I can take for now. Time to try and be productive after having all winds taken outta my sails.Wasn't trying to shit all over you, it's just the font used in comparison to the beautiful picture just makes the overall composition of the cover really off putting in my opinion.I also think our main gripe is about the extremely limited options the US is getting compared to EU. Just makes it not worth a PO till these are available in stores. All things aside, I love all yours and the band's previous work, art and music, I'm sure this will be good as well, just for what we've seen right now, we as fans get worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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