itsgoodtobefree Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 We've all seen those $30 bootlegs (or "imports," as some shops call them) at our local stores. Right now, I am really interested in obtaining one of the Lost In Translation boots. But there are two main issues stopping me from buying it: 1. Legitimacy. Obviously none of these are legal, and no money is going to anyone who had anything to do with the official release. Knowing there's an official version out there stops me from buying these - like I wouldn't get the same sense of ownership that I do with an official copy of an album. 2. Quality. Surface noise, like official releases, varies from release to release, but my issue with quality is the source material used. I'm sure that a lot, if not all, of these modern bootlegs use CD rips or even MP3 downloads. Some official vinyl releases are probably CD rips too, so I wonder if it's worth debating. I guess it boils down to this: Is having an unofficial and perhaps inferior to CD bootleg really worth owning just to say that you have it on vinyl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkinglot Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 How to royalties even work for soundtracks? Would MBV even see a penny if you bought the official CD? Or is it a one time payout? And apparently the soundtrack was put out by a now defunct label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himynameisShane Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I bought The Killers Hot Fuss the other day. I debated getting it because I was pretty sure it was a bootleg, but I ultimately decided to just get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I've got Jay-Z - Magna Carta, Holy Grail, and the newest Drake on the way from V-D. I'm sure they'll be fine. pizza face and Cloudsbelow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waters Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I have a Lost in Translation boot- it sounds awesome. Who knows if it's digitally sourced or whatever, but it sounds good. If it's ever officially repressed I'll buy that too- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinji Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Just bought a Danzig bootleg today actually. I'll usually buy a bootleg if it's from a shop I support and of something that I can't see getting repressed soon or ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloudsbelow Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 buy them all the time.. quality is usually decent/good. For the most part they'd be a place holder until a repress, or i stumble upon a deal in a used bin. Regarding royalties, artists dont see a dime from inflated secondary market selling of used/new-used records.. so what difference if its a boot. If they (or the label) wanted to get paid, instead of me spending my hard earned on $100+ beck records, they repress em already! Fridge Fox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsWetWilly Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 buy them all the time.. quality is usually decent/good. For the most part they'd be a place holder until a repress, or i stumble upon a deal in a used bin. Regarding royalties, artists dont see a dime from inflated secondary market selling of used/new-used records.. so what difference if its a boot. If they (or the label) wanted to get paid, instead of me spending my hard earned on $100+ beck records, they repress em already! This is EXACTLY what I was going to say (minus the beck part). Cloudsbelow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckinandsuckinandtouchin Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I really want Hole's 'Live Through This'. I just have to buy it first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piky0032 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Recently got 3 System of a Down boots.......Supported a Local Store......Got some records that are to expensive on the second hand market and or picture discs that i don't want. They weren't expensive.......and i cant see them being pressed any time soon Seems all good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightwingbrokenwing Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I really want Hole's 'Live Through This'. I just have to buy it first. i heard it sounds pretty good, i want it also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Potter Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I found a Killers - Hot Fuss bootleg at my local shop and picked it up because I didn't realize it was one. After doing research at home I figured it out. The jacket quality is weaker than most and the record sounds only ok. I wouldn't say it sounds bad but I have a lot more records that sounds clearer. It was only $20 so, whatever. My advice is to research online if you have doubts. There are probably other people out there posting about the quality. As for the whole moral dilemma thing thing... idk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caninesapien Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Never, if I can help it. I do have boots of A Saucerful of Secrets by Pink Floyd and No Slave by Infest that I mistakenly picked up. They sound "okay" but if I had known at the time I wouldn't have got them. I don't see the point in spending any money on a bootleg. Someone above said a boot was $20 but even that is far too much for me. I would rather put the money towards a legitimate release of something else I want to pick up. It's not worth it to me, just to say I had something on vinyl. I'll stream/listen to the CD until I can get official releases. I do have an issue with stores selling boots without prior warning. I know there's a whole legal minefield there but there always seems to be an element of exploitation when the boots are stuck in the middle of "real" issues. I guess the seller's argument is "if you don't want it, don't buy it." but that's hard to take when there are so many people getting into vinyl at the moment. There's a seller near me that has the Melvins - Houdini EU bootleg press and they have a sign next to it saying "this is a shitty sounding bootleg, be warned!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slushy Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I have never purchased a new bootleg, and don't think I would. Maybe if it was being sold at cost I'd pick something up, but they always seem to be shit I'm not interested in enough to fork over loads of money for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hzielaskowski Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I never buy bootlegs. I have two in my collection Tool "Salival" boot lp which was a gift and Smashing Pumpkins "Mellon..." boot on yellow lp which I bought years ago being unaware it's a bootleg. And to be frank I find bootlegs as a rip off and easy money people are getting from someones work. Lets be clear, whoever released last Pearl Jam boots has made hell lot of cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I own a few, but try not to buy them. I have lost highway ( same deadwax ax the OP), a couple Beck albums and Cake- Fashion Nugget. Of the few I own, they sound fantastic. Didn't pay more than $30 for any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtcb Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 i heard it sounds pretty good, i want it also Took a chance on it and was very pleasantly surprised as it sounds excellent. I bought Exmilitary soon after that which also sounds good. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna grab the Lost Highway boot sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Id love to find a Tool-10,000 Days bootleg. I should've jumped on it when I had the chance. Cloudsbelow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 100% will buy a bootleg and cross my fingers that it doesn't sound like shit. If the artist/label want to make money in the vinyl market then they should press it themselves. Clearly if a bootleg is being made there is a demand out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 There's way more to it than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apirk Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I'd never buy a bootleg that once was an official release. I just don't see the point I would never buy a burned cd or a dubbed tape. I might by a bootleg that was like a compilation or a live show but Id have to be sure it didn't sound like shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 There's way more to it than that. What else is required other than having the rights to the music and the money to fund the pressing? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 If you are that curious, look it up. I'm not hijacking this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfranciosa Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Only as a last resort and never if it is readily available (and mostly affordable) otherwise. I got Lost in Translation and the recent Lost Highway soundtrack releases because originals were nearing $200+ (and Lost Highway seems to have used the same stampers as the original), but I generally try to avoid counterfeits because they often sound like shit and have poor quality control. I'll also buy bootleg live recordings, remixes, demos, etc. when I can - again only if they sound exceptional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinyl addict Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Theres a NIN boot that Ive been searching for. NIN - Left in Awe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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