AdventureIsOutThere Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) PO Soon.... Here's a link to Max's half goodbye half see ya later ... maybe. https://bit.ly/2w7gtIR Album Art: New song: Pressing Info: Underwater Blue /100 https://www.dinealonestore.com/collections/say-anything/products/say-anything-oliver-appropriate-underwater-blue-lp Splatter /500 https://www.dinealonestore.com/collections/say-anything/products/say-anything-oliver-appropriate-splatter-lp Half & Half Splatter /500 https://www.dinealonestore.com/collections/frontpage/products/say-anything-oliver-appropriate-half-half-w-splatter-lp Retail Black https://www.dinealonestore.com/collections/say-anything/products/say-anything-oliver-appropriate-lp Edited November 30, 2018 by AdventureIsOutThere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texan4life Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Has a self-titled vibe, liking it. AdventureIsOutThere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 That letter was wild YesPlease 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWasteOfATime Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffbloom Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Start saving now for the inevitable box set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsNJazz Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I saw a thread for a new Say Anything record, and I came here to say 'why hasn't Max just given up already?!' Then I read that letter and thought, 'Yeah, it's probably a good thing he decided to give up, finally' N8TRU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasj182 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I'm not trying to be smug or piss in anyone's cheerios but do people still care about SA? I feel like with each passing album the fervor of SA dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
januarytwenty Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) What a strange way to go out. Even more strange he decided to use Eisley’s domain. I’ll echo the previous comments on Say Anything giving up too. Band has been on a steady decline since IARB. Edited August 17, 2018 by januarytwenty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) Took out "Hahaha cracking up at the last comment." Since the last comment was edited to remove the funny joke calling out Drew Beringer and Jason from Absolutepunk. -edit. Letter seemed super cringey and unecessary like if you're an adult and still feel the need to write a 5 page diatribe desperately trying to distance yourself from a character you wrote about in your early twenties and be like "OMG that guy on the phone with the girl who touched herself was SO not me guys I was a virgin til 30!! And also I'm gay kind of but not so I couldn't be that emo guy from IARB" just so weird. I'm just a straight white dude so what do I know, but damn man, I'm kind of tired of people thinking they're so woke because they think dudes can be hot too. Like damn man Ryan Gosling is a fucking hunk and I'd probably squeal like a school girl if I saw Cillian Murphy on the street but I'm not writing 5 pages about how fucking woke I am because I'm secure enough to just not be a homophobe lol. Maybe I took the whole letter thing the wrong way but every part of it kind of put me off. All the apologizing and praising his wife for putting up with him going all "method Heath Ledger" just read like coattail hanging weirdness. No doubt the guy has personal issues and all and I can respect someone dealing with that stuff but... Yeah the whole thing just read super off to me. Edited August 18, 2018 by rooks Tommy, toxicity, thomasj182 and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwaterzoo Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, rooks said: Hahaha cracking up at the last comment. Letter seemed super cringey and unecessary like if you're an adult and still feel the need to write a 5 page diatribe desperately trying to distance yourself from a character you wrote about in your early twenties and be like "OMG that guy on the phone with the girl who touched herself was SO not me guys I was a virgin til 30!! And also I'm gay kind of but not so I couldn't be that emo guy from IARB" just so weird. I'm just a straight white dude so what do I know, but damn man, I'm kind of tired of people thinking they're so woke because they think dudes can be hot too. Like damn man Ryan Gosling is a fucking hunk and I'd probably squeal like a school girl if I saw Cillian Murphy on the street but I'm not writing 5 pages about how fucking woke I am because I'm secure enough to just not be a homophobe lol. Maybe I took the whole letter thing the wrong way but every part of it kind of put me off. All the apologizing and praising his wife for putting up with him going all "method Heath Ledger" just read like coattail hanging weirdness. No doubt the guy has personal issues and all and I can respect someone dealing with that stuff but... Yeah the whole thing just read super off to me. As a gay woman, it’s really not always as simple as “I’m secure enough”. You being able to appreciate an attractive person of the same gender is really not the same as someone struggling with their sexuality. vinny0190 and THE_James_Champ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, underwaterzoo said: As a gay woman, it’s really not always as simple as “I’m secure enough”. You being able to appreciate an attractive person of the same gender is really not the same as someone struggling with their sexuality. Right, like I said, I'm definitely no expert on these matters. It is just confusing, at least to me, when someone poses an argument against categorical definitions of "straight" vs "bi" vs "gay" but then uses that same vocabulary to describe themselves. "I'm gay, but people don't think I'm gay because I'm also straight and married a woman and I'm madly in love with her but I'm definitely gay too but people don't believe that I'm gay" is just... Odd. Part of me is just wondering why it even matters - can't he just like who he likes without trying to label everything and defend past lyrics and attitudes? The whole "I'm gay" thing seems a response to trying to defend what he sees as inappropriate or mysoginistic lyrics\themes in IARB. Likely that's not the case in his real life, it's just how it came across in the body of the "letter". Tommy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewillisisdead Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Ryan Gosling has a weird eye and his band sucked. Still hot tho. That's what the 5 page TLDR is about, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 To be clear, I did get a little off track in my replies. I have a much more palpable reaction to the odd stance of trying to reconcile himself against IARB lyrics, than how someone decides to try to define their sexuality. I guess I'm in the "it's undefinable" camp, but firmly enough that I don't then immediately say "it's undefinable, but if I had to define it...." Feeling as though you need to publically prove you're not some character you created 15 years ago is more baffling, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCDELTAT Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Yusss. Actually been waiting for this since Will Yip teased it on New Years. That song is actually pretty dang good. Definitely going to preorder. AdventureIsOutThere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventureIsOutThere Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, rooks said: Feeling as though you need to publically prove you're not some character you created 15 years ago is more baffling, though. I don't know if I agree completely... His entire career post-ISARB has been fans telling him to make ISARB again. He used to say all the time that fans would write that they wish he wasn't on meds or doing more drugs so he can write an album like ISARB again... Perhaps it's time he said it was about this character. I can imagine it's hard to say, "Hey, you know those lyrics you feel so deeply about because they relate to you so much? That was just a story." Edited August 17, 2018 by AdventureIsOutThere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, AdventureIsOutThere said: I don't know if I agree completely... His entire career post-ISARB has been fans telling him to make ISARB again. He used to say all the time that fans would write that they wish he wasn't on meds or doing more drugs so he can write an album like ISARB again... Perhaps it's time he said it was about this character. I can imagine it's hard to say, "Hey, you know those lyrics you feel so deeply about because they relate to you so much? That was just a story." I see what you're saying, and yeah it's unfortunate if that's true, that people wished he was more fucked up so he'd write songs more like IARB. Maybe my feelings are less towards him because he had to clarify it and more just towards the fact that he had to clarify it at all. No denying there are tons and tons of people out there who are absolutely incapable of separating life from art\fiction. I remember Conor Oberst having to explain in interviews years ago that not everything in every song happened to him or even to people he knew, sometimes they were just stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventureIsOutThere Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, rooks said: Maybe my feelings are less towards him because he had to clarify it and more just towards the fact that he had to clarify it at all. I feel that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsNJazz Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I'm just really curious why he was snorting antidepressants because antidepressants dont get you high and I'm pretty sure snorting them would be pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfactor675 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) when your last record sounded sooo bad and somehow Will Yip's work sounds an upgrade. rare times. Edited August 17, 2018 by xfactor675 N8TRU and zacooper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 9 hours ago, thomasj182 said: I'm not trying to be smug or piss in anyone's cheerios but do people still care about SA? I feel like with each passing album the fervor of SA dies. Should have stopped after In Defense MCDELTAT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCDELTAT Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Tommy said: Should have stopped after In Defense Yeah really surprised to hear people dishing In Defense. At the very least it has so many "cameos" on it. Gerard, Chris Carraba, Haley, Chris Conley, Matt Skiba, Adam and Fred of TBS.... I find the album worth going back to for that alone because it gives you a weird image of where the SA was at and the Scene at the time. And the album is just good on it's own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, MCDELTAT said: Yeah really surprised to hear people dishing In Defense. At the very least it has so many "cameos" on it. Gerard, Chris Carraba, Haley, Chris Conley, Matt Skiba, Adam and Fred of TBS.... I find the album worth going back to for that alone because it gives you a weird image of where the SA was at and the Scene at the time. And the album is just good on it's own. In Defense had a lot of filler but if you boil it away it had (at the least) 12 songs very close to the same level as IARB. Everything after is trash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventureIsOutThere Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tommy said: Everything after is trash Eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcafilm Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I would consider Say Anything to be my favorite band and I think IARB might be the greatest album ever recorded, to my ears. I've been able to find something to love in every release, but to me IARB had a youthful magic to it that can't be replicated and I've had no desire to see it replicated. So as someone who loves that album but just sees it as something grand in the past, this new concept feels a little like a Sicario 2 situation. Did we really need a sequel to something that stands alone? Will it even feel like a sequel other than the forced psychological connection? Is this going to embarrass everyone involved 5 years from now? That said, the song is fine. Just fine. I won't even touch the goodbye letter, but it didn't read like something written by a healthy person and that bums me out. I've accepted that every SA album is totally different and hoped to hear ten more years of Bemis music, but if this is the end then so be it. I just hope it's a fitting one and not an awkward one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exileinoblivion Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 IN Defense is one of my 10 favorite albums of all time but the Self titled and IARB are both incredible as well. The last few albums are whatever . But I have seen them play 3 times in 4 years and they basically only play songs from the first 2 albums which makes sense as they know what people like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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