idreamofpunk Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Okay, but you don't need to be a dick about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
companyinkrecs Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 BUY AMERICAN. I just spent my entire day at Rainbo records yesterday sifting through usable/unusable jackets made in China. NEVER AGAIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjb2k1 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 idk about anyone else but i don't keep my YC one for the kids 7" in the 12" jacket - it's stored with all my other 7". so even if i was interested in this release the special jacket is not a selling point for me personally. onlettingjoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmoVeganBoy Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Okay, but you don't need to be a dick about it. Haha well I apologize to anyone who thinks I came off as a dick. That was not my intention. I was just trying to be firm in my opinion. TheRareCreature 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 But do the 7"s have to be in the the 12" sleeve? Couldn't the 7"s come in their own sleeve and then stick them in between the gatefold and think poly bag over everything to keep them in place? 19.99 plus 4.99 X 3 would be my price point on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear801 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 But do the 7"s have to be in the the 12" sleeve? Couldn't the 7"s come in their own sleeve and then stick them in between the gatefold and think poly bag over everything to keep them in place? 19.99 plus 4.99 X 3 would be my price point on this. I think $30 would be the fair price point because a single LP shouldn't be $19.99. PJAM's Benaroya Hall was four 12"s in a deluxe box for $35. More power to SRC for aiming for a profit though. They know they'll sell and i'll probably cave and get one. I have no clue what licensing fees they're paying and all that but either way $50 for this is steep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I just wanted to throw some numbers in the ring. No idea what licensing for this costs, no idea which pressing plant they used. But if I use Gotta Groove's price card it comes out to something like this. 2500 180 gram black records: $7200 2500 colored 7" records: $3175. $7200 + (3)$3175 = $16,725 +Triple Gatefold $4925 = $21,650 +Say it costs $2 to cut each one jacket ($5000) = $26,650 No idea what licensing costs but say it costs $40,000 which would be nuts. = $66,650 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2,500 copies at $30 = $75,000 2,500 copies at $40 = $100,000 2,500 copies at $50 = $125,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 oh, and labels would probably be 1000 bucks for all 10,000 records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 so they aren't even doubling their money. seems reasonable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I just wanted to throw some numbers in the ring. No idea what licensing for this costs, no idea which pressing plant they used. But if I use Gotta Groove's price card it comes out to something like this. 2500 180 gram black records: $7200 2500 colored 7" records: $3175. $7200 + (3)$3175 = $16,725 +Triple Gatefold $4925 = $21,650 +Say it costs $2 to cut each one jacket ($5000) = $26,650 No idea what licensing costs but say it costs $40,000 which would be nuts. = $66,650 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2,500 copies at $30 = $75,000 2,500 copies at $40 = $100,000 2,500 copies at $50 = $125,000 Very interesting. Thanks for putting this together. I wonder what the labor costs are; packing 2,500 records has to take some time, I'd think. I don't oppose SRC making a profit--they're a business, obviously--but I'd certainly be more inclined to buy if it were around $40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 i totally pulled that $40,000 number out of my ass. i have NO idea. absolutely SRC should make a profit, and there's probably other expenses to think about. for such a huge undertaking as this, the profit has to be substantial or it's pointless to go through all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc32137 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Wouldn't it be 7500 colored 7" records? Or is the price still accurate and that's a typo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Wouldn't it be 7500 colored 7" records? Or is the price still accurate and that's a typo? it's correct. the line says 3 times $3175 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc32137 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Okay, I see it now. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collectivemike Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I just wanted to throw some numbers in the ring. No idea what licensing for this costs, no idea which pressing plant they used. But if I use Gotta Groove's price card it comes out to something like this. 2500 180 gram black records: $7200 2500 colored 7" records: $3175. $7200 + (3)$3175 = $16,725 +Triple Gatefold $4925 = $21,650 +Say it costs $2 to cut each one jacket ($5000) = $26,650 No idea what licensing costs but say it costs $40,000 which would be nuts. = $66,650 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2,500 copies at $30 = $75,000 2,500 copies at $40 = $100,000 2,500 copies at $50 = $125,000 This all looks fine and good, but you forgot the $50,000 R&D expenses that went towards trying to figure out how to cut a hole to fit a 7" into the gatefold. They said it themselves, it's the most complex design they've ever seen! Snaggle Von Swift, dedlee, ifworkpermits and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnywreck Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Why didn't they just spread all the songs out over two LPs and tack on the bonus tracks at the end? Probably cost less to produce, in my completely uneducated opinion. I mean, the 7" idea is cool, but I'd rather just have the songs on LP if it's going to cost me so much to have them all as seperate pieces. bear801, taylo234 and birdwell 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnstypls Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Why didn't they just spread all the songs out over two LPs and tack on the bonus tracks at the end? Probably cost less to produce, in my completely uneducated opinion. I mean, the 7" idea is cool, but I'd rather just have the songs on LP if it's going to cost me so much to have them all as seperate pieces. what would have been even better is if they pressed each song individually on a 7" and then sold a subscription for $109.99 that included all of them in 4mm poly sleeves. dethrock and jonnywreck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 what would have been even better is if they pressed each song individually on a 7" and then sold a subscription for $109.99 that included all of them in 4mm poly sleeves. sounds about like the my chemical romance 7" series. $59 shipped for the five 7"s altogether or $69 to get them as they were released. with the discount, i figure $19.99 for the LP (afterall that's what we'd pay at HT or a similar retailer) and about $7.99 per 7" (which is again about what you'd pay in retail for a major label release). not to mention the nice packaging. meh. edit: and actually HT sold it for $21.99 edit2: and that shit is taxed, isn't tax included in the price at SRC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefchino Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 with the discount, i figure $19.99 for the LP (afterall that's what we'd pay at HT or a similar retailer) and about $7.99 per 7" (which is again about what you'd pay in retail for a major label release). not to mention the nice packaging. meh. edit: and actually HT sold it for $21.99 edit2: and that shit is taxed, isn't tax included in the price at SRC? This is how I justified it to myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psus2h Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I have spent more for new releases than this, so the price is fine with me. Shit, I spent $100 on St. Anger on orange vinyl directly from Warner Bros..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmoVeganBoy Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I have spent more for new releases than this, so the price is fine with me. Shit, I spent $100 on St. Anger on orange vinyl directly from Warner Bros..... TheRareCreature, psus2h, taylo234 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psus2h Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Its Metallica bro, we do more than get stoked, we get broke. TheRareCreature and unwound 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmoVeganBoy Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Its Metallica bro, we do more than get stoked, we get broke. Haha I like that. I was just under the impression that even Metallica fans didn't like St. Anger. But I guess for collection purposes it makes sense to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedinexile Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Every time I hear any mention of St. Anger, I immediately cringe thinking about those drums. idreamofpunk and Satan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 pUnX fOr PrOfIts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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