Do any of you actually listen to the music you buy?

[derby625]

I have all the Springsteen variants. The coke bottle blue is my favorite.

 

But seriously, just stop. Any valid points you were trying to make have been negated by acting like a six-year-old that has just discovered insults and has to make up for being bullied.

[AlexH.]

All the brave talk as usual. That's the applie pie and coca cola talking buddy. Turn your Bruce Springsteen records down and come back to reality with the rest of us.

Okay, I posted before I saw that you talked shit about The Boss. You can straight up go and fuck yourself with a cactus, good sir.

[Guest crazybeats]

It was 2007, and I don't care that you think vinyl was big, the record sales show it wasn't. Digital sales were in their infancy, CDs were still king, and vinyl was for nerds, old fogeys, and DJs.

 

 

That's a nice way to talk about the founder of this forum isn't it?

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Can I do that? I wouldn't dream of doing that. No music fan in their right mind would put their vinyl records on a duvet or any surface like that. But then again it's not about listening to them with you is it? No it's just about collecting so you don't mind leaving them lying on some duvet covered in hairs and dirt do you. Place is rife with Americans, typical big mouth ones too, that's what you lot have more than anything and in the real world you wouldn't say any of that stuff to me because you know i'd bitch slap all of you across the face with the back of my hand. You're better just sticking to your gifs.

 

[slinch]

Crazy, stop being a pathetic pussy for a second and answer my question:

 

Hey cray cray, you still haven't answered my question. Why do you even buy records?

 

Seriously, it's depressing for an internet tough guy and know-it-all to avoid such straightforward questions.

[AlexH.]

It was 2007, and I don't care that you think vinyl was big, the record sales show it wasn't. Digital sales were in their infancy, CDs were still king, and vinyl was for nerds, old fogeys, and DJs.

 

 

That's a nice way to talk about the founder of this forum isn't it?

If that's all you have to say about my entire post, then I guess we're done here.

 

Especially since "the founder of this forum" has an approval rating somewhere below that of Congress. Buddy, if you only knew.

[Derek™]

This fucking wanker. VC's biggest Try-Hard of 2013. It took me a while to decide whether or not he was trolling, but his unjustifiable animosity and purely laughable posts have sealed the deal. This thread is shaping up to be Hall of Shame worthy.

[isavedlatin54]

Is no one going to address that OP spelled apple with an "I?"

Silly

[Guest crazybeats]

Look at you all with your cuss words and insults lol. Take a good look at yourselves. Go look in the mirror I mean really, is that all any of you can do? You're all angry because you all know I'm right. Why do I buy vinyl records? I don't just buy vinyl i buy CDs, i buy them to listen to music I like and I do it in whichever way I think is the best way, that means price, where I can buy it, how badly I want it, lots of reasons. The other guy up the page likes to tell me that vinyl records weren't much good in 2007, at least when I walked into a highstreet music store here I went in and the place was full of 7" singles, 12" singles, imports, white labels, albums. The statistics might show otherwise but the selection ie. what you can buy ws far far better than it is today and if you are a music fan then you would have bought singles. Singles were a cheap way of buying a song you liked but maybe didn't want the album. It's no surprise I walk into those same stores now and the singles section is a tiny little shelf and the rest is overpriced LPs, most of them reiusses. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Bruce Springsteen or Bob Marley or AC/DC and all these other artists that seem to overpopulate record stores but for someone like me who buys music to listen to it at that time, it doesn't do me much good. I'd take 2007, infact right up till the end of 2009 even over 2010-2013 any day of the week. You say I hate the fact that people who like the same music as me keep their music in frames. The kind of music I like, nowadays, I can't buy on wax unless I either buy the album or I look at the bootleggers and see what extra tracks they've stuck on with it and even then the bootleggers can't seem to even get that right these days because any singles they do release they release them months after they've been released to itunes so buy the time I get round to buying it I've already got another bunch of singles I'd like so I don't even buy bootlegs all that often unless it's something i really really want. I'm thrilled that vinyl records are selling so well but I'd be lying if I wasn't just a little insulted at every article I read about it claiming as if vinyl is back, as if it was gone and now it's this new thing that the kids are into. It never went away. It's the highest in 20 years and I look in record stores and I see names like Vampire Weekend and Daft Punk and Sting and I'm thinking what on earth are these people buying. I'd love to know where the sales are coming from. If this is what they are buying now, all these overpriced LPs they would have loved it just 4 years ago when it was just a regular format and the prices were much lower.

 

 

I daresay the crowd that are buying records now would have loved all the cheap 7" and 12" records. They could have got 4 or 5 for the same price they pay for an album. For them to make a comeback people would need to stop buying vinyl again. But of course that is all nonsense isn't it. And as for you Derek, I'm not any Try Hard or whatever you call it. I made a thread saying what I felt needed to be said, everything I said was true and if you don't like it tough. If i wanted to know your opinion I'd ask you. There is no crime about saying what you think, then again you do live in America, I know you don't have freedom of speech over there anymore. Old Barry from Kenya seen to that. Couldn't even vote an American to be your President could you and now the TSA have their hands down everyones pants in airports and you have all these patsys running around trying to scare people into giving up their guns and all these other fake things going on in the government. But on here no one will know Derek. On here you can have your Freedom of Speech back. On here, online , in this forum your constitution is real again, it's a real thing that means something and I wont take that away from you even though your President took it away from your people in real life. On here you can speak your mind but don't ever.....call me names or try and badmouth me ok. We got that? You're a good kid, you're passionate, I like your passion.

[Tommy]

FARTS

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

how.... are you still going?  

[AlexH.]

I daresay the crowd that are buying records now would have loved all the cheap 7" and 12" records. They could have got 4 or 5 for the same price they pay for an album. For them to make a comeback people would need to stop buying vinyl again. But of course that is all nonsense isn't it. And as for you Derek, I'm not any Try Hard or whatever you call it. I made a thread saying what I felt needed to be said, everything I said was true and if you don't like it tough. If i wanted to know your opinion I'd ask you. There is no crime about saying what you think, then again you do live in America, I know you don't have freedom of speech over there anymore. Old Barry from Kenya seen to that. Couldn't even vote an American to be your President could you and now the TSA have their hands down everyones pants in airports and you have all these patsys running around trying to scare people into giving up their guns and all these other fake things going on in the government. But on here no one will know Derek. On here you can have your Freedom of Speech back. On here, online , in this forum your constitution is real again, it's a real thing that means something and I wont take that away from you even though your President took it away from your people in real life. On here you can speak your mind but don't ever.....call me names or try and badmouth me ok. We got that? You're a good kid, you're passionate, I like your passion.

 

[collectivemike]

Dude really had everybody going (myself included), it's a shame he had to waste it with the typical internet lunatic nonsense.

[Tommy]

TRANSLUCENT GREEN FARTS /200

[derby625]

OMG VARIANTS!!!

 

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[GradedOnACurve]

I have figured out how to assemble the OP

 

[TFP]

God damn, you will not quit.

 

 

According to United's price calculator: 1000 standard weight black LPs in generic DJ sleeves cost $2.09 per unit. If you're only pressing 500, it's $2.82/unit. According to Gotta Groove's price card: $2.20/unit for 1000, $3.10/unit for 500, and that's with no sleeves at all. Other plants' prices are roughly in line with those. That's without premastering, full cover labels, non-generic jackets (gatefold jackets can cost as much as the records themselves) recording costs, and having enough money left over to keep the label's lights on/dump into the next project. I hope this thread doesn't exist just because a guy told you in 2007 that Universal sold 12" singles for $1.50 wholesale. They were that cheap because:

 

1. It was 2007, and I don't care that you think vinyl was big, the record sales show it wasn't. Digital sales were in their infancy, CDs were still king, and vinyl was for nerds, old fogeys, and DJs. Now, post-"vinyl revival", post-Jack White, post-Record Store Day, pressing plants are slammed 24/7 pressing new special edition copies of Rumours, and prices have gone up. This is 5th grade economics here.

 

2. Universal owns the whole pipe, from the artist to the studio to the manufacturing (at least, when they used to own plants of their own) to the distribution. 

 

 

3. 12" singles (at least the kind we're talking about) are more or less all promos, whether they're marked as such or not. They could eat a loss no sweat, because those cheap singles were getting played by DJs and other tastemakers, and that artist's music was getting extra exposure to sell a couple thousand more copies of their album, which had a huge profit margin.

 

For the most part, small labels doing small pressings are doing so because it makes the most sense for them. You keep bringing up Universal, Eminem, Justin Timberlake, as examples of how it should be done, but guess what? Universal has warehouses, huge staff, and hundreds of millions of dollars. Some of these labels you seem to hate are run out of bedrooms, garages, and basements. They don't have the capital or physical space to make thousands of copies of everything they put out just so it never goes out of print.

 

The thing is, I empathize with a lot of the cynicism you hold towards this message board. I hate splatter bullshit, I hate preorders, I hate $20+ single LPs, I hate the fact that people here get excited about Linkin Park and Evanescence and Limp Bizkit reissues and don't give a shit about great new music that's coming out. I think your anger is misplaced, though. This was never an "audiophile"-type vinyl board. It was founded in 2007 by a guy who ran a punk label, when vinyl was just starting to be more of a thing, and it was a place for people with punk/indie/hardcore-type tastes to get more info about what was coming out. Somewhere along the way, it warped into a place where Panic at the Disco has at least 5 separate threads and a guy who works for Hot Topic is revered as a god. But boy you need to take your Valium and stop yelling at a bunch of people who do not care that you like bootlegs or whatever. You hate collector bullshit, that's fine. Welcome to the club. I don't see myself as a collector, but I don't miss out on releases I'm interested in because of people who do. Is it possible that your rage comes from a place of self-loathing, because you have realized that you have the same music tastes as people who keep their records in frames on their walls?

Crazybeats = schooled

/thread

[derby625]

Not to mention those costs are just for the physical materials; the licensing fees are not factored in there at all.

[castaway]

Good morning everyone! New day, replenished downvotes! 

[Brock N Roll]

I wish the OP rides his 1997 dyno air bicycle today on his way to work at McDonalds and gets hit by a huge bus.

[slinch]

Cray cray, no real music fans prefer singles to albums.

 

Also, no real music fans even buy music.

[TFP]

I think from past posts I can deduce that OP is in the UK (which explains the hate towards the US) and also explains the complaints about vinyl singles and all that and it might also explain the terrible spelling.

Anyway, yes in the UK and Europe labels continued to make 'singles' -but not whole albums-

I would say the market is better now, because the fans are getting full lengths on vinyl.

[youmightbewrong]

The music I pretend to listen to doesn't consist of 90% filler and a few good songs that  merit being put on a 12 inch single just so I don't have to endure a full 40 minutes of torture by being forced to listen to the whole thing on a vinyl lp. For the most part, I enjoy listening to my albums in full. It sucks that you only like a few choice songs from the artists you covet. I don't know, maybe I am misunderstanding your obsession with the 12 inch maxi-single.

[bigbruise]

 

I love when I get to use this gif.

[Guest]

Place is rife with Americans, typical big mouth ones too, that's what you lot have more than anything and in the real world you wouldn't say any of that stuff to me because you know i'd bitch slap all of you across the face with the back of my hand. You're better just sticking to your gifs.

You are fucking mental. There is seriously something wrong with you.