mutinyzine Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Article from Razorcake #46 (2008/09) by Joe Steinhardt. Discuss. http://smallhoursjournal.tumblr.com/post/81524937300/the-vinyl-bubble-razorcake-47-2008-09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chamb117 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 hard to read but the idea in itself is reasonable. i think we all think/know the "trend" will die eventually, it's just a matter of when. probably when labels get overzealous with their "limited" presses (and re-presses) to the point where nothing is truly limited anymore, and secondhand values start to tank. it'll drive out the owners/flippers who purely collect and don't really listen. the pull-out quote from the second image is the most important takeaway: be patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinch Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Reading from photographs of a printed article is like listening to mp3s of a record ripped with a crosley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutinyzine Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 Better images: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/mdsewjcdafdyjlm/Kjc8Axwro5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundboard Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 hard to read but the idea in itself is reasonable. i think we all think/know the "trend" will die eventually, it's just a matter of when. probably when labels get overzealous with their "limited" presses (and re-presses) to the point where nothing is truly limited anymore, and secondhand values start to tank. it'll drive out the owners/flippers who purely collect and don't really listen. the pull-out quote from the second image is the most important takeaway: be patient. I'd also say crazy cash grab prices from labels and retailers will start to kill the trend a little and drive some of those types away as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmartinxx Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 This article is mainly written on the false premise that collecting records is no different than collecting comic books or Beanie Babies. The difference is, nearly everyone consumes music and perhaps there is a shifting paradigm in the way people want to consume it. To put things in perspective, that article was written a half decade ago. The lifespan of the cassette was about ten years. The "vinyl bubble" has been growing for nearly as long as the lifespan of an entire media format. We're also seeing steady growth, not an explosion in popularity as you'd expect with a trend or fad. I don't see it "popping" any time soon. I think it will peak in the next few years and hopefully plateau. I should also say that when this article was written, I would have agreed with the author. The five or six years of perspective has changed my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamover Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 there will definitely be a number of people who are willing to buy disney soundtracks on picture discs that will someday stop buying vinyl because they realized they wasted a ton of money on them and it's not making them happy anymore. but for those of us that don't have to have every expensive variant and mostly buy them to listen to them because they sound great on a proper set up, i think we'll continue to buy them. AlexMBentley, smailtronic, circuit bored records and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiatorhums Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 There was an article last year where the Numero Group compared the vinyl bubble to the baseball card bubble of the early 90s : http://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/essays/collateral-damage_numero-group-on-the-vinyl-bubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museummouth Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 The only reason 90% of new collectors "collect" to get likes on tumblr/instagram. Once people stop liking their pics, they'll stop buying and the whole market of $30 2xLPs will crash AlexMBentley and agaetisbyrjun 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billya Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 The only reason 90% of new collectors "collect" to get likes on tumblr/instagram. Once people stop liking their pics, they'll stop buying and the whole market of $30 2xLPs will crash What a glorious day that shall be. tml-7 and agaetisbyrjun 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdtg Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 The only reason 90% of new collectors "collect" to get likes on tumblr/instagram. Once people stop liking their pics, they'll stop buying and the whole market of $30 2xLPs will crash I'm collecting likes mitchard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 This article is mainly written on the false premise that collecting records is no different than collecting comic books or Beanie Babies. The difference is, nearly everyone consumes music and perhaps there is a shifting paradigm in the way people want to consume it. To put things in perspective, that article was written a half decade ago. The lifespan of the cassette was about ten years. The "vinyl bubble" has been growing for nearly as long as the lifespan of an entire media format. We're also seeing steady growth, not an explosion in popularity as you'd expect with a trend or fad. I don't see it "popping" any time soon. I think it will peak in the next few years and hopefully plateau. I should also say that when this article was written, I would have agreed with the author. The five or six years of perspective has changed my opinion. Since records have the longevity of being the primary way to consume music since the inception of popular music, I would posit that it doesn't look like it, but we are in a 'revival' of sorts. If you look back to around 2008 or 2009, with the start of RSD, etc, things have been on the rise. Remember, though records never died, during the early 90's after the massive change to compact disc preference, the primary people who were releasing albums on vinyl were punk/hardcore and indie labels. And yes, there were some major labels releasing vinyl, just not in the massive amounts of numbers like in the 60-70's and even still in the 80's, it was still sort of a niche market. Collecting records became a hobby in the 70's with the advent of the cassette. So the masses have always swayed toward new technology. Maybe if we're lucky, the new way to listen to music (digital, I guess) will take over even more and deflate the bubble we're in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleon Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 In 10 years, all used $1 record bins are going to be full of pop punk records on wacky colored vinyl, most likely all sealed. omik11303 and AlexH. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 yes everyone will stop buying/collecting vinyl, except for us real fans who will keep buying/collecting vinyl. Its just a bubble cant wait to find me some Robert Johnson 78s in the dollar bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl_ben Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Also best part about that article saying the vinyl bubble will burst soon....it was wrote 5 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billya Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 In 10 years, all used $1 record bins are going to be full of pop punk records on wacky colored vinyl, most likely all sealed. As long as they come with the frames, I am ok with this. TheMoosen, FangsAnalSatan and horrorbusiness138 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billya Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Also best part about that article saying the vinyl bubble will burst soon....it was wrote 5 years ago. Best part of this quote was "it was wrote"....it was written. jase, somethingvinyl and jonnywreck 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 yes everyone will stop buying/collecting vinyl, except for us real fans who will keep buying/collecting vinyl. Its just a bubble cant wait to find me some Robert Johnson 78s in the dollar bin. I found a Lightnin' Hopkins 78 in a $1 bin before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korgull Of Morgoth Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Remember, though records never died, during the early 90's after the massive change to compact disc preference, the primary people who were releasing albums on vinyl were punk/hardcore and indie labels. Well, not really. That can be correct from the whole mp3/Napster revolution in the mid '00s and on but techno/house/electronica/dj stuffs is what kept the record pressing plants in business during the '90s/early '00s. While vinyl records went almost completly 'out of business' in that time frame for all the rock/punk/metal/indie/whatever labels, hiphop/electronica record shops were blooming and always filled with records and that's why you can now find endless crates of useless crap mixes on wax in any 2nd hand store any where in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Parlour* Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I can kind of already see the day where "physical" everything will be expensive, and stay expensive. I mean what can come after digital music? It would have to go straight in your brain or something. Things like cassettes, Polaroids, vinyl and probably VHS don't have a bubble to me, they're all luxury items to people who can afford them, and those people will always exist. stl_ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingvinyl Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Well, not really. That can be correct from the whole mp3/Napster revolution in the mid '00s and on but techno/house/electronica/dj stuffs is what kept the record pressing plants in business during the '90s/early '00s. While vinyl records went almost completly 'out of business' in that time frame for all the rock/punk/metal/indie/whatever labels, hiphop/electronica record shops were blooming and always filled with records and that's why you can now find endless crates of useless crap mixes on wax in any 2nd hand store any where in the world. Fair enough, since I don't listen to EDM, I didn't even consider it in the equation. But you're right, there's a lot of EDM/hip hop pressed in the 90's. Yet, I think you're not considering how much punk/indie music was released then. That's why there's a crap ton of punk 7"s from bands that you've never heard of in $1 bins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 The only reason 90% of new collectors "collect" to get likes on tumblr/instagram. Once people stop liking their pics, they'll stop buying and the whole market of $30 2xLPs will crash If you only listen to music like La Dispute and the Wonder Years, yeah. agaetisbyrjun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emo Revival Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Country music was also still being pressed in huge numbers in the 90's. A lot of country stations didn't want to switch over to the modern tech so country labels kept pressing 7" so they could get radio play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsersen Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 The only reason 90% of new collectors "collect" to get likes on tumblr/instagram. Once people stop liking their pics, they'll stop buying and the whole market of $30 2xLPs will crash This is an awfully pretentious post considering that this same forum helps contribute ideas to the monthly Instagram "record a day" campaigns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangsAnalSatan Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 This is an awfully pretentious post considering that this same forum helps contribute ideas to the monthly Instagram "record a day" campaigns. Just because some members on here Instagram records doesn't mean everyone does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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