kjkenney Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, vinyl addict said: What's the difference in how old it is? If it's graded NM, I would expect NM. If it's old and beat up, grade it accordingly, and there will be no surprises. grading aside, I just meant people's expectations of condition in regards to blemishes on a cardboard sleeve that's decades old. But yeah there are plenty of nice copies of old items out there that fall in NM vinyl addict 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecayToDeath Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 24 minutes ago, vinyl addict said: Nothing wrong with framing album artwork, as long as the record still makes its way to the turntable. Genuinely surprised at VC's lack of wrath; the Collective gets a gold star for today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjkenney Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, Thomas³ said: What's a turntable? Hairy Potter, Billich0986 and niblips 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niblips Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 13 hours ago, Metal Mike said: And as soon as I remember how to update my signature, that's it. Shit, I was gonna do that. Metal Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niblips Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Damn, I read through all these pages and not one cat gif. disappointed. Dusted_By_Space and GalacticMelt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aopps42 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I assume the people that get bent about it are more interested in the collector/$ side of the hobby vs. the music. That said if you're buying online you more or less need to be ok with a ding here or there. kjkenney and freedumb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 If you are buying a second hand record please keep in mind that the jacket has probably been shipped 3 times. First printer to label then label to first user then first user to second user. The jacket could have a ding before it even got to the label. Many record labels work on a shoestring budget that increases their ding tolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 THE HOBBY!!! Shitty Rambo, Fungi and vinyl addict 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leet-thrust Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 18 hours ago, Satan said: I've never fucking cared, nor do I give a shit, but a buyer in discogs asked -and I know ALOT of you bitch about it . Is it pretentiousness? Is it because is has to be "perfect"? What? ITS A BUMP ON THE CORNER FOR FUCKS SAKE. tell me. I mean, this is like saying "why do people buying a used car ask if there are scratches in the paint?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Why does everyone keep comparing records to cars? That argument makes less sense than people being upset over corner dings. ditc586, Bladewillisisdead, Dusted_By_Space and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sve Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) It really depends on what my expectations are. If I am buying a new record, or a record that states that it is near mint, then it better be perfect. I like things perfect, and I don't mind paying a little extra to ensure it is perfect. On the other hand, there are some records that I just want a copy of, and I will happily buy a non perfect copy, as long as I knew ahead of time and paid what I thought was acceptable value. Edited January 27, 2017 by sve vinyl addict 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, leet-thrust said: I mean, this is like saying "why do people buying a used car ask if there are scratches in the paint?" How many people pay to get scratches/dents out of their cars? Most people just leave them. I've had my car for 6 years and it's littered with marks and i don't mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Hundred Fifty-Two Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 30 minutes ago, leet-thrust said: I mean, this is like saying "why do people buying a used car ask if there are scratches in the paint?" Also who doesn't go and look at the car in person before buying it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) I like to meet with every potential Discogs seller I may or may not do business with. We sit down, talk terms. If I like what I see, we take it for a spin so I can get a feel for what we're talking about. There's usually some thorough back-forth haggling – gotta' make sure I'm getting the most out of the loan I took out for such a hefty purchase. But really, please stop with the car comparisons. You may as well equate record dings to dents or knicks on the produce you buy at the grocery store. "I'm paying goddamn well over $3.00 a pound for those carrots. You're telling me it's okay if one is a little dented? What if you bought a car that was 'a little dented'? What then? Tell me what when, motherfucker." Edited January 27, 2017 by Derek™ allenh, Billich0986, Hairy Potter and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedumb Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 58 minutes ago, sve said: If I am buying a new record, or a record that states that it is near mint, then it better be perfect. I like things perfect Gotta say, you sound like rough buyer. Can I get your eBay name to put a block on you? I do understand your perspective - you should get what you paid for - cool. I would just hope that you and buyers like you always make it *perfectly clear* to each seller before you purchase that you require absolute *perfection*. A bit much for me. Life and stuff. Although I did have an odd fetish for sharp 90 degree corners back in my university days of sexual exploration. It got bad for a bit and I actually lost the very few friends I had. Ever-so-tight plastic over 4 perfect nineties was all I needed. That teetering balance of equilibrium - the plastic pulling in, the sleeve - just being. The threat of sharp-corner-collapse or bumpage-via-handling was titillating. PM me for details and links to my sharp corner blog, where we don't focus so much on the album, nor the album art. But we pay plenty of attention to those corners, let me tell ya! kannibal, Satan and dnl 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Banned User] Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Haha these walls of text. 9/10 thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungi Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tidal Wave said: How many people pay to get scratches/dents out of their cars? Most people just leave them. I've had my car for 6 years and it's littered with marks and i don't mind. i do. i fix that shit, it's tacky as hell and i have car insurance. there's this douche in my work parking lot who shoves his door wide open while exiting his vehicle without looking every goddamn time. he's probably single-handedly fucked up around 20-30 cars in the parking lot. i see him do it all the time from my work window and even captured it on video from my phone on 1 or 2 occasions. he drives an old truck that's full of dings, dents, scratches, and chipping paint. he even parks like a complete asshat all sideways and crooked all the time. i have a "ding threshold" and if that bastard crosses it, it's on. Edited January 27, 2017 by Fungi vinyl addict 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedumb Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Fungi said: i do. i fix that shit, it's tacky as hell and i have car insurance. there's this douche in my work parking lot who shoves his door wide open while exiting his vehicle without looking every goddamn time. he's probably single-handedly fucked up around 20-30 cars in the parking lot. i see him do it all the time from my work window and even captured it on video from my phone on 1 or 2 occasions. he drives an old truck that's full of dings, dents, scratches, and chipping paint. he even parks like a complete asshat all sideways and crooked all the time. i have a "ding threshold" and if that bastard crosses it, it's on. Sounds like you prefer limi-ding your damage. Edited January 27, 2017 by freedumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vinyl addict Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, Fungi said: i do. i fix that shit, it's tacky as hell and i have car insurance. there's this douche in my work parking lot who shoves his door wide open while exiting his vehicle without looking every goddamn time. he's probably single-handedly fucked up around 20-30 cars in the parking lot. i see him do it all the time from my work window and even captured it on video from my phone on 1 or 2 occasions. he drives an old truck that's full of dings, dents, scratches, and chipping paint. he even parks like a complete asshat all sideways and crooked all the time. i have a "ding threshold" and if that bastard crosses it, it's on. I've always had it fixed, or fixed it myself also. Don't want to be driving around in something that looks like a p.o.s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedumb Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, vinyl addict said: I've always had it fixed, or fixed it myself also. Don't want to be driving around in something that looks like a p.o.s. And you definitely don't want to be seen with corner dings. Analogy applies. aopps42 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sve Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 2 hours ago, freedumb said: Gotta say, you sound like rough buyer. Can I get your eBay name to put a block on you? I do understand your perspective - you should get what you paid for - cool. I would just hope that you and buyers like you always make it *perfectly clear* to each seller before you purchase that you require absolute *perfection*. A bit much for me. Life and stuff. Although I did have an odd fetish for sharp 90 degree corners back in my university days of sexual exploration. It got bad for a bit and I actually lost the very few friends I had. Ever-so-tight plastic over 4 perfect nineties was all I needed. That teetering balance of equilibrium - the plastic pulling in, the sleeve - just being. The threat of sharp-corner-collapse or bumpage-via-handling was titillating. PM me for details and links to my sharp corner blog, where we don't focus so much on the album, nor the album art. But we pay plenty of attention to those corners, let me tell ya! To each their own. If you are selling records, just grade correctly and its really no big deal. I dont order much on ebay, or online in general as it is. The mail fucks stuff up more than anything. vinyl addict 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sve Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Tidal Wave said: If you are buying a second hand record please keep in mind that the jacket has probably been shipped 3 times. First printer to label then label to first user then first user to second user. The jacket could have a ding before it even got to the label. Many record labels work on a shoestring budget that increases their ding tolerance. Thats fine, just grade accordingly? vinyl addict 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sve Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Tidal Wave said: How many people pay to get scratches/dents out of their cars? Most people just leave them. I've had my car for 6 years and it's littered with marks and i don't mind. Lol, i definitely do. Well, it really depends on how bad it is, but even little scratches and dings Ill try to buff out or pull out myself. I special ordered the freaking thing, im going to try to keep it as nice as possible for as long as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aopps42 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I had a guy complain about splits on generic inner sleeves. People will bitch about anything, especially if they think they can get a few bucks back. niblips 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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