mrewest Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just take solace in the fact of how many post rock / metal records are pressed. I see what you did there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRHews Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 ...take solace in the fact...i c u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Glad someone(s) noticed the pun. Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just take solace in the fact of how many post rock / metal records are pressed. Get it together, Gumbo. BUT I WANT THESE. Haha. No but really, my perplexion (word?) stems from the fact that these guys are small bands and labels, so why not do it? What big legal hurdles could there be? I just don't get why a label would say "No." Especially with a band like Jakob where the stuff would clear out instantly. Unless it's really just that much of a hassle for the band. I think ultimately my frustration arises from my perception that somewhere, someone in the supply chain seems to be going "ehhh... nah, we don't really want to do this." For instance, Midium Records seems to be the holders of Jakob's material. Even if they weren't to do this, they would still make money on a repress by TMS who would pay a licensing fee. Now, if Midium is getting uppity and whiney about price points and percentages, well... that's super lame. Just press the damn music. I don't think you go into a genre of music like this to make money. The point is you love the music, and should want it to spread further. Unless, do you think labels ever sometimes say "No" to represses because they enjoy seeing something they released climb to astronomical levels on the secondary market? I'm sure there's got to be cases like that. I remember talking to Mike Vennart from Oceansize about repressing their debut album, Effloresce, and he said that the label simply doesn't want to do it. ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID? It would instantly sell out!!!! I paid $100 for that record. People will buy it. It seems like they simply want to keep a one-and-done claim for themselves. Unless they truly are misreading the market demand for such a product? I don't know. EDIT: By the way, if there were a record library where I could check out Solace for a while, this wouldn't even be an issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vool Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I remember talking to Mike Vennart from Oceansize about repressing their debut album, Effloresce, and he said that the label simply doesn't want to do it. ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID? It would instantly sell out!!!! I paid $100 for that record. People will buy it. It seems like they simply want to keep a one-and-done claim for themselves. Unless they truly are misreading the market demand for such a product? I don't know. I really need that record at a decent price...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 i thought the sheath was (re)pressing all this stuff. did something change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 As far as I know, nothing changed... there just haven't been any updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Heart Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 It's still in the works. It'll happen... eventually. I remember when they used to write me notes about the next Tertia repress. That was a few years ago. They said 'soon' and I was thinking "oh cool a few months or so". Turned out to be two years. J & L take their time. I'm cool with it though cause they're the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drds89 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 all jakob releases were supposed to get vinyl pressings like 3 years ago on "doognad records" so this isn't the first time its happened ^qft and Thomas there is good people but the shipping would have been killer. That Sheath is doing them is a double bonus and any hold up I'm sure has nothing to do with J&L's end. Prob legal stuff as always... Just take solace in the fact of how many post rock / metal records are pressed. Yep, punny man of the day award! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I really need that record at a decent price...! Maybe some day I'll let mine go, but I paid a lot for it. Haha. Just glad I didn't drop that kind of cash on "Salvation" by Cult of Luna, which I almost did a few times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vool Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Was offered the record twice for 80€...but it's just too much for a record IMO, therefore I passed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamha21 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Do any of you guys know the story with the Shoot the Freak version of Sines? Is that just a Sheath press that was imported to NZ or is that a completely different pressing cut at 33? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarfaceclaw Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 No real progress but Feb 2017 newsletter from Mylene Sheath says they're still cometh: "So we get at least one email everyday asking us if we're going to be pressing up the Jakob catalog on vinyl. We had announced that we would be doing it last year, but the schedules just didn't line up. But we have good news, the wheels are back in motion We'll be pressing the self-titled album, Subsets of Sets, Cale:Drew, and Solace - so be prepared, for they do indeed cometh. Stay tuned!" kjkenney and CaptainHerbalLife 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHerbalLife Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Superb news. Was just thinking about this the other day. Unreal that they went a year and a half without any updates at all. Kinda made me think Mylene was done for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I could have sworn we got a newsletter last year.... but maybe I'm confusing it with Caspian's newsletters. I don't know. So here's a question though. How do you think this will affect the market value of the OG Solace pressings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Gumbo72203 said: So here's a question though. How do you think this will affect the market value of the OG Solace pressings? Considering the demand prior Solace presses have maintained, and analyzing the sale graphs on Discogs and Popsike for various copies and variants over the last 3-4 years, I have determined that I don't give a shit and neither should you. But really. Like with any repress that is sought after, it will drive the demand down a bit, but hardcore / variant enthusiasts will pay just as much or more to complete their collection in the future. I find it tough to really care though. The Vool, Eliminator Jr., omik11303 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) And just to clarify: as someone who owns multiple variants of Solace, I am excited to see it repressed. Not only because I'm interested to see what variants they come up with, but also because this record is too good to not be in the collection of anyone interested in post-rock. Muh portfolio be damned. [edit] If I misinterpreted your post and you're inquiring after aftermarket value because you're trying to pursue an OG copy, I apologize. I'm just 99% sure you own an original press or two, but I could be mistaken. Edited February 15, 2017 by Derek™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Derek™ said: And just to clarify: as someone who owns multiple variants of Solace, I am excited to see it repressed. Not only because I'm interested to see what variants they come up with, but also because this record is too good to not be in the collection of anyone interested in post-rock. Muh portfolio be damned. Oh me too. it's just something I'm curious about, so I do care!. I have an OG, and will buy another. Like with "Salvation" by Cult of Luna, people were asking astronomical prices for the vinyl before the repress, and now they go for half that. I'm curious if Solace will suffer the same thing. Market stuff like this is interesting to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Gumbo72203 said: Oh me too. it's just something I'm curious about, so I do care!. I have an OG, and will buy another. Like with "Salvation" by Cult of Luna, people were asking astronomical prices for the vinyl before the repress, and now they go for half that. I'm curious if Solace will suffer the same thing. Market stuff like this is interesting to me! I hear you. The fluctuation in price is admittedly interesting to see play out, sure. But for me, personally, I'll be hanging onto my current Solaces regardless of whether or not I pick up additional copies. If I had less of a hoarding problem with variants I'd probably be smart about it and sell them in advance, but alas. The newsletter confirmed that the S/T is getting pressed too... was that always a part of the plan? I feel like it wasn't. Leafing over some posts on the first page, it looks like the tentative plans had only included SOS and C:D up until now. Really cool that we'll be able to own vinyl copies of everything they've released, barring Dominion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 My copy of Solace skips on the last track. Hopefully this is the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Derek™ said: I hear you. The fluctuation in price is admittedly interesting to see play out, sure. But for me, personally, I'll be hanging onto my current Solaces regardless of whether or not I pick up additional copies. If I had less of a hoarding problem with variants I'd probably be smart about it and sell them in advance, but alas. The newsletter confirmed that the S/T is getting pressed too... was that always a part of the plan? I feel like it wasn't. Leafing over some posts on the first page, it looks like the tentative plans had only included SOS and C:D up until now. Really cool that we'll be able to own vinyl copies of everything they've released, barring Dominion. Yeahhhh, I have an unplayed OG Solace that I haven't cracked yet. Waiting for a new table before I spin it. I'm curious whether it would be financially advantageous to part with that prior to these coming out. I'm not sure I'd want to, but it's interesting to think about. I also was listening to the S/T album today for maybe the first time ever. I'm not sure how that ever escaped me. Some of the songs are exciting, but other times it feels like they hadn't quite figured out to maneuver their sound for maximum effectiveness yet the way they figured out later. They turned a big corner with Solace, IMO. C:D and SOS are great and have some great songs I'm VERY fucking excited to hear on vinyl (Nice Day For An Earthquake and fucking Semaphore!!!) but for me, I think Solace and Sines are the tops. I think i'll be revisiting my CDs though of C:D and SOS though, it's been a good while since I've played them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecayToDeath Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Admittedly have only heard Solace and Sines, but I'm definitely in for a repress of the former. I always need reminders to round out my familiarity of some bands' discographies; guess this is my push for Jakob's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 2 hours ago, DOMAN127 said: Admittedly have only heard Solace and Sines, but I'm definitely in for a repress of the former. I always need reminders to round out my familiarity of some bands' discographies; guess this is my push for Jakob's. Listen to Cale:Drew and then immediately put Solace on. Everyone knows what I'm talking about don't say anything haha. Trust me you'll enjoy it. DecayToDeath, Derek™ and fizio59 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliminator Jr. Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 It's safe to say I'm gushing over this news. Solace has been among the top spots on my wantlist ever since I missed the 2008 repress. Had some bad timing with my car exploding while doing 100mph days prior to the preorders going up and when I finally had the nerves and funds to go for it, it was gone. It's not like copies disappeared from the surface of the earth ever since, but I'm not much of an aftermarket guy and rather have my cash go directly to the people involved, especially with people as awesome as this band. Also, Solace is one of the very last gaps on my .doc of albums I need to own on vinyl. That is, for now at least. Might be nice enough to have that list complete just once, for a fleeting moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjkenney Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I picked up a copy of Solace new at my local in 2011, but sold it a year later thinking I could track down a semi affordable EU press. Dumb! Pumped for all of these, their whole discography is perfect to me. The sounds they produce are unmatched, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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