Satan Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Virgil banned like half of us back in the day. oh the memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overdue Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Maybe that was the other guy, the dude that took did the Blink stuff and took peoples money? He might be the one that had the cd art blown up and pixelated with a big ole cd barcode on it also. Who knows? They're all doing the same thing, they kind of blend in together. I'm old, I don't belong here. Oh yeah, Mightier Than The Sword. I forget about them sometimes. That label had a few bands that fizzled. Think he also had a hand in Academy Fight Song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit bored records Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The only thing I know in this thread is dj29 rules. Make this guy a mod, ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Maybe that was the other guy, the dude that took did the Blink stuff and took peoples money? He might be the one that had the cd art blown up and pixelated with a big ole cd barcode on it also. Who knows? They're all doing the same thing, they kind of blend in together. I'm old, I don't belong here.No. That was ETR. For sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 THE_James_Champ, hobohunter48, yocaseycasey and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitty Rambo Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Careful, Shitty Rambo might come after you. Don't be dissin' on the 90's top 40 yo! You're speaking very matter-of-factly for someone who "hasn't really posted in a few years" and also putting words in my mouth like I straight up defended ETR. The only thing I questioned was this vinyl-bro mentality you ran up in here with. This isn't exclusive to you and tends to happen in all 'these types' of threads. It's almost like anyone with a Fugazi record in their collection feels it's necessary to point out, at nauseum, that they don't like these labels or the people who buy these records. Got it. If this community and boards are as bad as certain people insist they are then why do even come here? Just to get pissed off? It makes no damn sense. More importantly I'm not trying to argue with you, but this discussion wasn't started so we can all read about how much people don't like Good Charlotte(sp) and Korn. I for one am more concerned about Ross being able to fix this shit because as mentioned above he's only human and people fuck up. He did some shady things, but seeing people come out of the woodwork just to kick him when he's down is pretty crappy too. Duff, radiatorhums, David The Gnome and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just a normal guy kevin Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm down to help Ross get back on his feet and clear his name. Just let me know what I can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuit bored records Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm down to help Ross get back on his feet and clear his name. Just let me know what I can do. Uh, get him to come clean and apologize? I'm pretty sure that's all most people wanted from the start of this fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xadamhudsonx Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 seeing people come out of the woodwork just to kick him when he's down But that's the only reason I keep reading this thread. sacredheart and Hobbes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 he's not helping himself throughout this entire situation so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Ross has had some serious issues from the beginning that have only been compounded by the recent influx of information that this thread has provided. Here's a list of more-than-questionable business decisions/screw-ups that have occurred: - First release - a picture disc that he tried to justify by saying it was the only way to make a 'gold' record + Awful shipping job on these - often resulting in damaged records - Starting Line - poorly packaged, almost all seam splits. - RXBandits - No band approval. No remorse. (You will find this to be a recurring theme) - Early November - Blown up CD artwork. Huge barcode on back because of this. (I know this is technically Patrick's doing, but Ross is the label owner) + Hidden /50 variant that he told people not to reveal because the label didn't even know about it. - Fall of Troy - typo on track listing. - Cartel - He purposely made this a 'surprise' release as he didn't have the band approval and knew there would be issues. However, ETR sold out before the band could get word out. - NK - Basement Tapes - Have you seen the 'packaging' for this? He reasoned it was because it was a 'demo' release and purposefully minimal packaging. - Dream Theater - He claimed it was CD-sourced because no digital files exist anymore. Music on Vinyl used HQ digital files from the label for their release of this. - Cute Is What We Aim For - Wrong center labels. - Kevin Devine Live - Misspelling on spine. Pixellated interior images. Wrong center labels. Wrong track lengths. - Doug 7" - Re-recorded covers of the 'original' songs by he and his friends. Makes it completely ambiguous in all postings. Thanks himself on the back of the record. - Lightning bolt shirt - Supposed to be bolt from Skeeter's shirt. Looks nothing like it. Extra-curricular activities - - Charges >$5 for shipping media mail - and claimed it was because pricing had gone up. - Sells grab bag - often putting in records that would be cheaper if you bought normally on this site. - Uses eBay to flip his own releases - Gives extra variants to his business partner to flip for even more on his own eBay account - Said business partner (and owner of Paper Books) comes in to lie and cover-up for Ross - Said business partner (and best friend and 'musician' on Doug 7") tells board member "I will be sure to give you a rag to wipe off my cum after you are under my desk choking on my dick," among other things. - More lies from ETR It's known I've never been a fan of Ross, but coming in and apologizing just doesn't fly for me (even though he hasn't even done this). He constantly makes excuses, has poor business tactics, is known to lie over and over to cover himself, and has shown almost zero regard for the bands he works with. knifeparty, serum7, Duff and 16 others 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 money is hard earned. when we feel betrayed of not getting the most of our measly dollar then yeah....im grabbing my steal toed boots. dont try to pull a fast one over my unsuspecting head and have me learn later about shit and that ill just 'be okay with it' he cant even say this line: hey guys, i messed up, lied and im sorry for it. therefore the circle of no respect will get more turns than a 1940's Macy's revolving door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetsuodaironman Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Ross has had some serious issues from the beginning that have only been compounded by the recent influx of information that this thread has provided. Here's a list of more-than-questionable business decisions/screw-ups that have occurred: - First release - a picture disc that he tried to justify by saying it was the only way to make a 'gold' record + Awful shipping job on these - often resulting in damaged records - RXBandits - No band approval. No remorse. (You will find this to be a recurring theme) - Early November - Blown up CD artwork. Huge barcode on back because of this. (I know this is technically Patrick's doing, but Ross is the label owner) + Hidden /50 variant that he told people not to reveal because the label didn't even know about it. - Cartel - He purposely made this a 'surprise' release as he didn't have the band approval and knew there would be issues. However, ETR sold out before the band could get word out. - NK - Basement Tapes - Have you seen the 'packaging' for this? He reasoned it was because it was a 'demo' release and purposefully minimal packaging. - Dream Theater - He claimed it was CD-sourced because no digital files exist anymore. Music on Vinyl used HQ digital files from the label for their release of this. - Kevin Devine LIve - Misspelling on spine. Pixellated interior images. Wrong center labels. Extra-curricular activities - - Charges >$5 for shipping media mail - and claimed it was because pricing had gone up. - Sells grab bag - often putting in records that would be cheaper if you bought normally on this site. - Uses eBay to flip his own releases - Gives extra variants to his business partner to flip for even more on his eBay account - Said business partner (and owner of Paper Books) comes in to lie and cover-up for Ross - More lies from ETR It's known I've never been a fan of Ross, but coming in and apologizing just doesn't fly for me (even though he hasn't even done this). He constantly makes excuses, has poor business tactics, is known to lie over and over to cover himself, and has shown almost zero regard for the bands he works with. Spot on, sir. Kudos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhostOfRandySavage Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Spot on, sir. Kudos. tetsuodaironman, yocaseycasey and cfrancese5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetsuodaironman Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 He definitely gets 100 points per post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTDRONES Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 This is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I started this for another thread, but I feel like it's appropriate for this one too. https://www.change.org/p/vinyl-collective-change-vc-s-name-to-olde-timey-fart-factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nardes Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 at least his Something Corporate releases have been on point slamster17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I started this for another thread, but I feel like it's appropriate for this one too. https://www.change.org/p/vinyl-collective-change-vc-s-name-to-olde-timey-fart-factory I signed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futures Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Same lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noalarmplanet Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I just feel like a moron for believing that he was earnest in contacting bands for approval before moving ahead. I thought "Eh, he tried" and then overspent to grasp on to the tiny bit of nostalgia I have that keeps me from becoming the slow, sad human being I pretend I am not. I might have even defended his stance. Knowing what I know now from this thread:I wouldn't be surprised if any release he cancelled wasn't done so out of respect for the band, it was done so out of threat or legal action. Lying does matter, especially when you are the face of your own business. ETR is done in my book. I don't want the product you are selling. The cost is too great and yes, I am a hypocrite. I shop at stores that do harm to the environment and give money to causes I am diametrically opposed to. I avoid it as much as I can but you are not a corporation, your a dude who can turn his life around, and have some success at it? Plenty of labels seem to be able to do the best they can. somethingvinyl and pablod85 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tokimedo Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Ross has had some serious issues from the beginning that have only been compounded by the recent influx of information that this thread has provided. Here's a list of more-than-questionable business decisions/screw-ups that have occurred: - First release - a picture disc that he tried to justify by saying it was the only way to make a 'gold' record + Awful shipping job on these - often resulting in damaged records - RXBandits - No band approval. No remorse. (You will find this to be a recurring theme) - Early November - Blown up CD artwork. Huge barcode on back because of this. (I know this is technically Patrick's doing, but Ross is the label owner) + Hidden /50 variant that he told people not to reveal because the label didn't even know about it. - Cartel - He purposely made this a 'surprise' release as he didn't have the band approval and knew there would be issues. However, ETR sold out before the band could get word out. - NK - Basement Tapes - Have you seen the 'packaging' for this? He reasoned it was because it was a 'demo' release and purposefully minimal packaging. - Dream Theater - He claimed it was CD-sourced because no digital files exist anymore. Music on Vinyl used HQ digital files from the label for their release of this. - Kevin Devine LIve - Misspelling on spine. Pixellated interior images. Wrong center labels. Extra-curricular activities - - Charges >$5 for shipping media mail - and claimed it was because pricing had gone up. - Sells grab bag - often putting in records that would be cheaper if you bought normally on this site. - Uses eBay to flip his own releases - Gives extra variants to his business partner to flip for even more on his eBay account - Said business partner (and owner of Paper Books) comes in to lie and cover-up for Ross - More lies from ETR It's known I've never been a fan of Ross, but coming in and apologizing just doesn't fly for me (even though he hasn't even done this). He constantly makes excuses, has poor business tactics, is known to lie over and over to cover himself, and has shown almost zero regard for the bands he works with. dont forget the starting line releases that were poorly packaged and essentially ALL had seam splits. or the newest release -- cute is what we aim for -- where the center labels are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terroristics Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Just got my order of 3 mystery bag records. Got: Jonny Craig-find what you love and let it kill you (green/white) Good Charlotte- s/t(black) Aaaaand the one I was going to buy for $24 Cartel-chroma(trans red) Hrvrd CD and DVD. Feel like I got a pretty good haul for $40 chrisapple 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 HEY. STAY ON TOPIC. WE ARE RIPPING ON PEOPLE AND/OR POSTING GIFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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