Derek™ Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, drewberinger said: listen to this record probably 2-3 times a day and it’s truly remarkable - the musicianship has never been better This is super promising to read but I also never forgot about this so I just don't know. drewberinger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewberinger Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Derek™ said: This is super promising to read but I also never forgot about this so I just don't know. I love night people! Derek™ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetsuodaironman Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I feel like Deafie is taking the Alcest route…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetsuodaironman Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Also, yes, New Bermuda is their best. SB and OCHL are tied, but most of the times I find myself listening to OCHL because the brighter, transcendent sounds feel more panoramic on that record to me. Truly worth of the namesake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRHews Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, tetsuodaironman said: I feel like Deafie is taking the Alcest route…. Alcest came back to harsh vocals though; Opeth on the other hand have not, so we will see where they go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Also; casting the first vote to ban the use of Deafie to discuss this band in any capacity from here on out. Mars, zaoza, YouLoveHisWife and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Fuckin' stupid as all hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheriver Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Derek™ said: Also; casting the first vote to ban the use of Deafie to discuss this band in any capacity from here on out. I love stupid sounding nicknames but I will also be vetoing all future use of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OU818 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, dantheriver said: I love stupid sounding nicknames but I will also be vetoing all future use of this one. def hvn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twatay Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 It's Deafheavy, mk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyfoz Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, twatay said: It's Deafheavy, mk? Deafheavenitley YouLoveHisWife and twatay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 11:40 AM, The Fuck Whisperer said: That's a "unique" take. I feel like you must be subconsciously relating OCHL to a bad spot in life or something This is a valid theory. I just spun OCHL yesterday on the new system for the first time (Rega Planar 6 with Hana EL cart > Mofi Ultraphono > Yamaha RX-V573 > KEF Q550's) and holy mother fuck. This music is god damn incredible. I even liked the Chelsea Wolfe track this time! The writing is just so impressive. Glint and Honeycomb are the big standouts. Those tracks fuck so hard. To me, this album is Deafheaven just being REALLY AWESOME at being Deafheaven. But i guess if you're like, a Marduk or Mgla or Drowning the Light guy, you're not going to accept the major chords and Oasis parts. Too pretty. Which, I suppose is legit. I know lots of people love Pelican, but their music does literally nothing for me. Same with Russian Circles. It's not bad, I just don't get it. Nobody this big is bad. That's an immature, high school attitude. On 7/14/2021 at 10:48 AM, daegor said: OCHL is my least favourite, this new stuff is much better. What don't you like about OCHL? I'm genuinely very curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:19 PM, MayCauseDeath said: This is 100% my ranking also I think new Bermuda is flawless. I have gone back to it so much. OCHL just doesn’t connect with me at all musically or emotionally. I am always shocked New Bermuda Constantly gets ranked low. You need to get super high and listen to Honeycomb again dude! That ending! New Bermuda suffers from the place the band was in when it was made. Drugs, alcohol, and general darkness... i feel the cloudy arrangements when I listen to those tracks, and think about it from a musician's standpoint. When I hear OCHL, i hear well-adjusted professional adults killing it at their job, which is to make Deafheaven music. New Bermuda to me sounds like a bunch of kids who write great music but are trapped by addictions and couldn't narrow the focus enough to really make the ideas hit home. That said, Gifts for the Earth has possibly the greatest Deafheaven riff ever when that chorus hits. NB has TONS of great ideas, but if they were in a healthier place, I think they would have been able to really shore up something brilliant there. It's still a great album, no question. Nothing they've ever done is BAD. But i give it like, a 89 when everything else is like 97-98 out of 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek™ Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Insano %s there but I respect the gumption. It’s well known that the band was in a bad spot when they wrote OCHL but I wouldn’t dare say it suffers from “narrow focus” or ambitious ideas that lack execution. Luna is still a top tier Deafheaven track. The balance between spacey or lush passages, and crunchy riffs galore… it’s a great ratio. Obviously you could spend the next 2 pages repeating the same sentiment and trying to explain why you feel the way you do about NB, but I’m not trying to change your mind about it, much like you’re not going to sway my thoughts on it. If anything I think it’s even more impressive that the band were probably on another planet and-or battling the effects of addiction when writing and recording that album. It’s a miracle it’s as cohesive as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrackt Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Yeah I mean OCHL to my ears feels …awkward… like they weren’t entirely ready to jump into the non-screaming stuff but wanted to write the really pretty tunes. So you have like super pretty (parts of) songs with George screaming over them. It always felt forced to me and detracts from enjoying the LP. Certainly not bad but it feels “transitional” compared to the powerhouse of New Bermuda tunes. That LP, while messy and and scattered feels more authentic to me. I think the new LP will be great because they are ALL IN on the new sound. OCHL felt like they were half in - so I’m stoked about the new tunes 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 8 hours ago, thetrackt said: Yeah I mean OCHL to my ears feels …awkward… like they weren’t entirely ready to jump into the non-screaming stuff but wanted to write the really pretty tunes. So you have like super pretty (parts of) songs with George screaming over them. It always felt forced to me and detracts from enjoying the LP. Certainly not bad but it feels “transitional” compared to the powerhouse of New Bermuda tunes. That LP, while messy and and scattered feels more authentic to me. I think the new LP will be great because they are ALL IN on the new sound. OCHL felt like they were half in - so I’m stoked about the new tunes 👍 Scattered is a great word, that's what I was trying to convey. I know the feeling well, from my own drug use past. I can relate to it, and I feel that's why I can see through the NB writing a little bit into what it was like to be in their shoes. It's not a fun place, and I'm forever grateful to be well beyond that bullshit. I suppose I can understand the transitional sentiment, but i love the experimentation and having George screaming over the happy parts. I think what solidifies it for me is that the melodies are solid. The writing is solid, hooky, and delivers. They got REALLY good at writing chord progressions. I also play in a psychedelic jam rock band, so perhaps I can attach myself to the traditional chord changes they use in the alt-rock sections. 9 hours ago, Derek™ said: Insano %s there but I respect the gumption. It’s well known that the band was in a bad spot when they wrote OCHL but I wouldn’t dare say it suffers from “narrow focus” or ambitious ideas that lack execution. Luna is still a top tier Deafheaven track. The balance between spacey or lush passages, and crunchy riffs galore… it’s a great ratio. Obviously you could spend the next 2 pages repeating the same sentiment and trying to explain why you feel the way you do about NB, but I’m not trying to change your mind about it, much like you’re not going to sway my thoughts on it. If anything I think it’s even more impressive that the band were probably on another planet and-or battling the effects of addiction when writing and recording that album. It’s a miracle it’s as cohesive as it is. Yeah i'm gonna throw it on again soon, it's funny how sometimes my perspective shifts on an album when I give it a lot of time to grow. For instance, I had a *BIG* problem with the latest Spurv record. I didn't like it. I wanted Skarntyde again. Same with the last 2 PG.Lost records. The style shifts bugged me, because I couldn't really connect the development in any way to previous releases. I imagine this is how Opeth fans feel now. I'm glad i stepped off that train when I was young. I got to see them a few times from 2002-2004 when they were at their peak, and it was wonderful. But I threw "Myra" on in the car a few weeks ago, and I suddenly could hear where they were harkening back to the old sound, and I appreciated it a lot more. It's good. I prefer their first 2 albums still over Myra, but I was unduly harsh I think. Not sure I'll ever feel that way about Versus and Oscillate with PG.Lost though haha, Yes I Am through Key is just.... too good. Anyway, Deafheaven is a good band and I'm glad we have the opportunity to keep talking about them here thetrackt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 14 hours ago, Gumbo72203 said: What don't you like about OCHL? I'm genuinely very curious. On 7/14/2021 at 11:51 AM, daegor said: Ha, no, if it's resonates with a bad time I usually like it more. I just find it uninspired and the experimentation didn't work for me. It felt awkward and clumsy. I feel like Infinite Granite is what they wanted to do, but just didn't take it that far. I'm very much an 'to each their own' type of person, but every time someone says OCHL is their best it has me scratching my head. Gumbo72203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbo72203 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 On 7/30/2021 at 12:36 PM, daegor said: Haha right on. Brains sure are weird, I couldn't disagree more about the clumsy feeling. Perhaps you are right about the new album being where they wanted to go; there's no way to tell. Although the existence of Black Brick from the OCHL sessions leads me to believe otherwise I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daegor Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Gumbo72203 said: Haha right on. Brains sure are weird, I couldn't disagree more about the clumsy feeling. Perhaps you are right about the new album being where they wanted to go; there's no way to tell. Although the existence of Black Brick from the OCHL sessions leads me to believe otherwise I guess? Black Brick I had associated to one last unrestrained black metal outing, especially now with IG I really feel that way. They used it to get it out of their system, cleanse the palate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 You can't really predict what Deafheaven will do... I don't see how New Bermuda would logically fit any normal progression the entire album is just as much a left turn between Sunbather and OCHL as Black Brick is between OCHL and IG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaoza Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Another song, In Blur is available at midnight. Last one I guess before IG is out in the next 16 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 N8TRU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooks Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 🤢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysopenmouth Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Might have to listen to this album front to back a lot before I’d consider paying for an LP, the new songs aren’t really doing anything for me, I don’t hate or love them Though I will say that Dan’s drumming on this new song is awesome and worth listening to over and over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicondevil Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 hours ago, jhulud said: If I listen to this song and wipe away any preconceived notions I have about this band it still just sounds very one dimensional and boring. I don't blame George for going clean on his singing voice. As a singer I can understand how singing like he did is just not sustainable. I'm fine with his new style. Not fine with lack of dynamics in the music/songwriting. Maybe it will grow on me within the context of the whole album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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