jhulud Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I knew it was coming but never would be prepared to how it went down and how to deal with it. I'm just numb right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_James_Champ Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Oof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFP Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Too far...even for this show. aopps42 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 That cliffhanger was even more unnecessary then. Especially considering what happened after. Was not expecting all of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Fucking Carl.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 That was pretty brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc32137 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Brutal for sure. And major kudos to the special effects crew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdomestic Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I think they could have made that episode the season finale without affecting the story at all. The cliffhanger looks even more unnecessary now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aopps42 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 What an episode! What an episode! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Han Solo Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Though the cliffhanger was still frustrating, I think I understand why it happened now. At the beginning it seemed like a cliffhanger just for the sake of tension and to keep people interested, but now it's really more of a split between the "Before" and "After". The last episode was really the end of the Post-Negan Era, and now this is the beginning of something really different. It sort of redefines the show. You know? So as annoying as it seemed, I kind of understand what they were trying to do now. At this point they can start from scratch and reinvent themselves, for example Rick looking nervously at that walker while driving away with all of his confidence and experience shattered. I'll definitely miss seeing Glenn every Sunday though. Steven Yeun has done a fantastic job over the years. Also, Maggie is fucking awesome. I loved that she was the first person to stand up after that whole ordeal and still insist they fight back. Edited October 24, 2016 by Han Solo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadreckoning Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Missed the premier because i went to the Red Hare, Scream, Cedar Crest County Club Skate Ramp Documentary show. However, my wife told me about some script leak she found, which was pretty spot on apparently. Was bummed to hear what happened, but will catch up later. If the writers really wanted to break from the comic and move into new narrative space they should kill Carl. He's the worst. Bigly. videogamesandvinyl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 11 hours ago, Subdomestic said: I think they could have made that episode the season finale without affecting the story at all. The cliffhanger looks even more unnecessary now. I think Hans post nails exactly why they did thE season opener like they did rather than end last season with the killings. You have 6 seasons of TWD, neegan happens, and you'll now have xxxx seasons of TWD. this episode will be that dividing point in the series everyone will reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himynameisShane Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 4 hours ago, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said: I think Hans post nails exactly why they did thE season opener like they did rather than end last season with the killings. You have 6 seasons of TWD, neegan happens, and you'll now have xxxx seasons of TWD. this episode will be that dividing point in the series everyone will reference I get it. I just still feel like last night's episode would have fit much better at the end of last season. It felt much more like a season finale than an opener to me. dnl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnystorm777 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Wow, what a great episode. Sucks they killed them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdomestic Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 31 minutes ago, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said: I think Hans post nails exactly why they did thE season opener like they did rather than end last season with the killings. You have 6 seasons of TWD, neegan happens, and you'll now have xxxx seasons of TWD. this episode will be that dividing point in the series everyone will reference I get the point that it divides the series into the pre and post Negan world, but to me the premiere still felt like it was the final stage of Rick losing control. By the end of the episode it was clear that they are now broken and will be following Negan's rules. That "end of the era of Rick" seems like a good point to close the season. We'd still all tune in to see how the group functions under Negan, if they'd try to regroup and attack, how the survivors deal with the fallout, etc... I think it does it a good job setting up what's coming. I guess it's just semantics if we consider the diverging point as the intro of Negan or the breaking of Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivions Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I think the point was to create a ratings draw for the season premiere and not to make the most satisfying or well-received creative choice. Drawing out one narrative event across two hours with a break of several months in between doesn't feel like an inspired artistic choice, in my opinion. dnl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattisr1984 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 they could have really thrown everyone for a loop and split the killings - abe at the finale, glenn in the premiere. fuckinandsuckinandtouchin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, mattisr1984 said: they could have really thrown everyone for a loop and split the killings - abe at the finale, glenn in the premiere. This is what they should've done. Instead you don't get to really process either death since they also jump right back to Rick and his situation. Breezus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezus Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Jesus fucking Christ ... that was insane. I'm surprised I didn't throw up. I saw it earlier today and I don't think I've still fully processed it. While I still think the cliffhanger was the worst thing TWD has ever done, I am glad this show finally got their balls back with this season premiere. As much as it hurt, something big really needed to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantdance Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'm going to put this show on pause. It's not the worst thing by any stretch of the imagination, but I just can't imagine watching this for another 5-plus years at the moment. It's such a vicious slog and it's so mean-spirited devoid of really well-written characters to suffer through it all. Plus, it's not really building up to any kind of "end goal" since it's a money machine so it's not like these two deaths really amount to anything other than shock and awe. I'll be breaking until a final season is announced. Glad every one else liked it, though. dnl, Dominic_ and TFP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFP Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Breezus said: I am glad this show finally got their balls back with this season premiere. As much as it hurt, something big really needed to happen. I think this is exactly why they did it. They have been blamed with playing safe before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 They make that a season finale they lose people for the next season's. Doing it as a premiere will keep people watching. Not hard to understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throughbeingcruel Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I didn't watch all of season 6 but I watched the last episode so I knew what was going on for the most part. I was so dedicated to this show until after they escaped the cannibals, then it all seemed like such a chore to watch for little payout. The S7 opener kinda changed that, so I'll probably watch all of S6 and keep watching 7 as well. Sucks we lost Glenn, but I was never too invested in Abe. We're down to just a few S1 characters, and I'm not sure if that's good or bad at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattisr1984 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 hour ago, throughbeingcruel said: I didn't watch all of season 6 but I watched the last episode so I knew what was going on for the most part. I was so dedicated to this show until after they escaped the cannibals, then it all seemed like such a chore to watch for little payout. The S7 opener kinda changed that, so I'll probably watch all of S6 and keep watching 7 as well. Sucks we lost Glenn, but I was never too invested in Abe. We're down to just a few S1 characters, and I'm not sure if that's good or bad at this point. gonna be hard to off anymore s1 characters for awhile - although im not so sure i see morgan making it out alive this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throughbeingcruel Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 43 minutes ago, mattisr1984 said: gonna be hard to off anymore s1 characters for awhile - although im not so sure i see morgan making it out alive this season. I've been hoping they'd kill Rick for awhile, and I wouldn't have been surprised if they had killed Darryl instead of Abe or Glenn since he's not from the comics. Most of the S1 characters seem to be totally blowing it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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