cwhitmuzik Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 It's almost a guarantee. He won't, he doesn't have the ability to ban those that don't agree with him or that he doesn't like here whose_thare, knifeparty and mike_eppenbro 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drownmeinestrogen Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 Didn't really mean to imply this was a groundbreaking idea, just that I've never really seen it expressed around these parts. I don't think there's a specific thread about this topic yet, but he argued his point in the thread about The Matches' vinyl release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmoney Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 For the new people: scott vs. jason tate http://vinylcollecti...pic.php?t=36948 Edit: i guess the link doesn't work. This was a great thread. http://boards.vinylcollective.com/topic/36945-scott-vs-jason-fight/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_James_Champ Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 He won't, he doesn't have the ability to ban those that don't agree with him or that he doesn't like here I was referring to a thread on AP, with people kissing his ass....like Juan said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejesseb Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 There's some real "Old Man Yells At Cloud"-style grumpiness in this piece. I guess Tate thinks that if majors and garbage reissue "labels" set prices at $30+ for an LP, they are then giving more of that money to the artist. I don't know that it's necessarily surprising that he's that willfully ignorant about how the music industry works, but it definitely means no one should take him seriously. Pretty much this. For example HT has recently upped their prices to $20. If you go see almost any one of those bands on tour you can grab the LP for $12-15 or even directly from the label. Also it pisses me of that these bands justify the higher price because they wanted to do something "special" (Just read in the matches thread). They even said they could have done a simple version at a lower price. Then why not do both versions and give fans a choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liimpan Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 That is quite possibly the worst row of record jacket spines I've ever seen in a photo. i'd MAYBE take the YFW repress and throw everything else up on ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyfranciosa Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 So basically the gist of this is "yes, we are charging you more than we probably should. because fuck you I wanna be rich." how much of this newly found windfall is going into the pockets of bands? or is it just the labels/distros getting fat as usual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oojavaguru Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 So this is the douche behind AP? Does he get his photos done at Glamour Shots? I find it funny that the guy who is "punk" and supposed to be about the scene looks like some preppy frat boy who gets handouts from his parents. Tate is about as Punk as this 'metal' band from the FedEx commercial: whose_thare, BFB, tape and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moglog Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The tiny labels (who are presumably the ones who could use the money) aren't charging $30 a record. Buy more stuff from No Idea. anthemforadoomed, somber_silt, thejesseb and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiecorecords Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Says the guy who probably never has to actually pay for his music... Also huge difference between paying $20-25 for a 2xLP and something like $32-40 that we've been seeing all too often lately on these represses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 eskimosnow27, stuckpig, Pozo and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_James_Champ Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Day = Made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejesseb Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Buy more stuff from No Idea. $10 LPs <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantscruffy Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 On a more serious and less inflammatory note, I think Jason Tate is genuinely confusing what people are upset about. People understand that records cost money. People understand that record labels and bands are trying to make a profit. What people don't understand is why labels feel the need to jack up the prices to absurd levels. The margins on these must be insane. What sucks is that people (myself included) will pay these crazy prices and therefore labels are getting the impression that these are "good" prices. I wish I had the mental fortitude to say "I don't need these Jimmy Eat World albums, I own the CDs and have a premium Spotify account," but I don't. BFB, drownmeinestrogen and tooclosetosee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradedOnACurve Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'm glad who cares jumped in this thread early. Why does Jason Tate get any attention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfrancese5 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I just came here to say that I'd like to punch Jason Tate in the face or perhaps drop kick him. sergeantscruffy, agaetisbyrjun and BKO5950505 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hecollec+or Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I just came here to say why does anyone give this guy attention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedannychang Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 If I was a label, I would try to bring the cost of LPs down and forgo a larger profit margin. This builds the reputation of a label and constructs some brand loyalty. For example, Polyvinyl's prices are pretty fair most of the time and therefore, I'll take chances and buy LPs from their artists whose music I don't know very well. Brand loyalty and a strong reputation = greater consumer lifetime value. drownmeinestrogen and eskimosnow27 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulud Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Somewhat off-topic but not really, I just browsed through the AP.net forums for the first time in maybe two years and two things jumped out at me: Their General Board has an uncanny resemblance to the VC main board. The thread solely dedicated to Taylor Swift in the Music section is full of people way more obsessed than I'd ever be. Yikes. David Loyd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corey. Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchard Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 If I was a label, I would try to bring the cost of LPs down and forgo a larger profit margin. This builds the reputation of a label and constructs some brand loyalty. For example, Polyvinyl's prices are pretty fair most of the time and therefore, I'll take chances and buy LPs from their artists whose music I don't know very well. Brand loyalty and a strong reputation = greater consumer lifetime value. I think these people are looking for a quick profit right now over any kind of longevity. Banking on vinyl as a fad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drownmeinestrogen Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 The biggest reason I check AP is because it helps me keep up with current releases and band news relevant to my interests. I have decent discussions with some members there as well, but there's a lot of fucking awful shit there too. I'm pretty ambivalent about Tate, he says a lot of shit I disagree with, but also quite a bit I do agree with. No real hate for him though, I don't know him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_James_Champ Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The thread solely dedicated to Taylor Swift in the Music section is full of people way more obsessed than I'd ever be. Yikes. Are you sure? Remember, I follow you on more than one social network buddy. yocaseycasey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglyorgan Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Jason Tate has turned more people on to good music than anyone who has written in this thread. He doesn't seem to "get" why vinyl should or shouldn't be expensive but that doesn't make him some sort of monster. His heart is in the right place.....his head? Not always. But I think he's done more good than not. yocaseycasey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovetheearth Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 thank you for that insight...Jason Tate littlebistro, docdasuess, scottheisel and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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