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kind of want i wish there was a lotr trilogy vinyl

God damn, you will not quit. According to United's price calculator: 1000 standard weight black LPs in generic DJ sleeves cost $2.09 per unit. If you're only pressing 500, it's $2.82/unit. According to Gotta Groove's price card: $2.20/unit for 1000, $3.10/unit for 500, and that's with no sleeves at all. Other plants' prices are roughly in line with those. That's without premastering, full cover labels, non-generic jackets (gatefold jackets can cost as much as the records themselves) recording costs, and having enough money left over to keep the label's lights on/dump into the next project. I hope this thread doesn't exist just because a guy told you in 2007 that Universal sold 12" singles for $1.50 wholesale. They were that cheap because: 1. It was 2007, and I don't care that you think vinyl was big, the record sales show it wasn't. Digital sales were in their infancy, CDs were still king, and vinyl was for nerds, old fogeys, and DJs. Now, post-"vinyl revival", post-Jack White, post-Record Store Day, pressing plants are slammed 24/7 pressing new special edition copies of Rumours, and prices have gone up. This is 5th grade economics here. 2. Universal owns the whole pipe, from the artist to the studio to the manufacturing (at least, when they used to own plants of their own) to the distribution. 3. 12" singles (at least the kind we're talking about) are more or less all promos, whether they're marked as such or not. They could eat a loss no sweat, because those cheap singles were getting played by DJs and other tastemakers, and that artist's music was getting extra exposure to sell a couple thousand more copies of their album, which had a huge profit margin. For the most part, small labels doing small pressings are doing so because it makes the most sense for them. You keep bringing up Universal, Eminem, Justin Timberlake, as examples of how it should be done, but guess what? Universal has warehouses, huge staff, and hundreds of millions of dollars. Some of these labels you seem to hate are run out of bedrooms, garages, and basements. They don't have the capital or physical space to make thousands of copies of everything they put out just so it never goes out of print. The thing is, I empathize with a lot of the cynicism you hold towards this message board. I hate splatter bullshit, I hate preorders, I hate $20+ single LPs, I hate the fact that people here get excited about Linkin Park and Evanescence and Limp Bizkit reissues and don't give a shit about great new music that's coming out. I think your anger is misplaced, though. This was never an "audiophile"-type vinyl board. It was founded in 2007 by a guy who ran a punk label, when vinyl was just starting to be more of a thing, and it was a place for people with punk/indie/hardcore-type tastes to get more info about what was coming out. Somewhere along the way, it warped into a place where Panic at the Disco has at least 5 separate threads and a guy who works for Hot Topic is revered as a god. But boy you need to take your Valium and stop yelling at a bunch of people who do not care that you like bootlegs or whatever. You hate collector bullshit, that's fine. Welcome to the club. I don't see myself as a collector, but I don't miss out on releases I'm interested in because of people who do. Is it possible that your rage comes from a place of self-loathing, because you have realized that you have the same music tastes as people who keep their records in frames on their walls?

Brock!!!!! Stop using all the bandwidth!!!!!

Not sure if we should be thankful or pissed at the mods for letting this go on for so long.

OP has moved 80 million paragraphs in this thread.

Math isn't your strongest suit, is it? Same with reading comprehension. And any activity that involves the use of brain cells, for that matter.

FARTS

That must suck

I just stumbled upon these pics, loved the idea and thought they are worth sharing:

This is how you spent your entire weekend?

I wonder if stamp collectors have these arguments in their forums. Hmmm

Weirdest pickup line, ever.

That's how I feel EVERY TIME I get a different variant of Reinventing Axl Rose

Oh and now that you're all here, watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e58ws4Z-nw

I'm a Dong Lover fanboy. Very excited for this.

ITT: Crazybeats argues on the internet about why his reasons for buying a piece of plastic are better than others reasons..

This needs to happen.

Looks like Cutler hurt his vagina

I think I Remember that episode of Mythbusters. It was confirmed.

hey op can you do this with your records?????????? didn't think so

who needs economics when you have varients

^^I'm feeling this!

Do any of you actually listen to the music you buy? yes. end thread.

what is listen

I think OP just missed too many pre orders.

Found a .gif of the OP

What the hell? Yo Casey Casey has really let loose.

262 pages later our Madie is still seeking Man Advice. You are the Charlie Brown of Love.

FYI, they have about ten Loser editions at Amoeba SF

I usually just open it because I have no restraint. Having a package of awesomeness sitting around for a month is torture.

I didn't order the hoodie so I can't personally help you out, man. Sorry about that. I hope he gets back to you. Regarding Dan; he seems like a good dude. He really does. He does a fair job at getting back to my inquiries and handling orders, and I understand that he's got a lot on his plate, but sometimes I wonder. I was late to the HANL party, and only discovered Deathconsciousness in the fall of last year. Obviously all the vinyl copies were exhausted at this point - even the limited repress - so I politely messaged Dan asking if there was (just maybe) a single copy laying around the office. Maybe with a bent corner or a misprinted label. Whatever the defect, I told him I'd be willing to pay more than the flat cost for a copy, even if it was gathering dust. I probably would have tossed him $50 or so. But he responded to me, insisting that he was all out. Everything was sold, and he couldn't help me. Oh well. At least I tried, right? So December of 2012, I luck out and find a VC member selling a mint copy of the album. The price is steep, but still better than the rare eBay auction. I sell a limited record, which covers the cost of this HANL splurge. Shortly after - perhaps January or February - I get wind that there's a Deathconsciousness repress in the works. I ain't even mad. Good on Dan for making more copies available to the world. But where I've become a little irate is when he sold a few "stashed" copies of Deathconsciousness on eBay, just a couple of months ago. He parted with both test presses and a handful of regular copies, and they all fetched bank. He knows a repress is around the corner, which is a little shady, but, whatever. He's running a small label, he needs the money, I get it. What bothered me is his insisting that he had no copies remaining, at the end of last year. The few copies he sold weren't stumbled upon spontaneously, nor did they land in his lap. He was saving them to rake in the cash. I just didn't appreciate his lack of honesty, I guess. I would've even appreciated a "Hey Derek, sorry. I've only got a few copies left, and I'll be auctioning them off somewhere down the road. Keep your eyes peeled and your wallet full." But it is what it is. I'm stoked for the new HANL record. I really am. But I also can't help to feel as if I'm overhyping it inside my head. Deathconsciousness was released in 2008. It's a beast of a double album, and something I still enjoy from start to finish, today. The new album (slated for a February release that I'm not holding my breath for) has been six years in the making. I understand that Dan spontaneously lost the masters, last year (...), but six years is a massive amount of time to release a six-song, 35 minute record. That's pushing the length of many EPs. I guess it's just frustrating, but understandable. Dan is allowed to have a life. I follow him on a few outlets, and it's a little irritating to see little (or no) progress on new HANL material, the Giles Cory vinyl release, or even responses to order questions (drds89). But there seems to be no shortage of updates on weekend activities, life around the house, or photos of what he's having for dinner. Like I said, he's allowed to put his life before his music. But it can certainly generate a bit of impatience as a fan or customer.

both shows were amazing. I still have no voice.

Yes, punish those that throw insults here on VC, Rambo, you will be here all day! Haha

In my experience, gay people are pretty nice. Do a lot of gay people insult you?

I love when I get to use this gif.

My favorite Roadside Monument song. Good find.

This is simultaneously my favorite and least favorite thread. FWIW: To me, listening to records is a treat. I mostly listen to music via MP3s/WAVs on my computer, so listening to records is kind of an event for me. I love the physicality. People who bitch about anyone who cares about anything other than the music itself when it comes to vinyl will always be wrong to me, because, in my mind, vinyl is about the physical, visual, and aural all together. The OP seems to have a vendetta against colored vinyl because it's supposedly a money-making gimmick for collectors. Personally, I love colored vinyl because it adds to the experience. I love seeing a release with awesome color variants that compliment the album artwork or reflect the mood of the music. As far as limited pressings, I'll agree, they can get a little ridiculous. But as someone else mentioned, a lot of the music being put out on vinyl today is pressed by small record companies who can't afford a 100,000 unit pressing. They press 500 because they know they can sell 500. That's how business works. And yes, they are out to make money. Everyone's got bills to pay and hobbies (like, you know, owning records or something silly like that) to spend on. Do I care about having a limited pressing of a record? A little bit. There's something special about knowing that only 99 other people in the world have the same thing you have. It adds to the special connection that vinyl gives me to the music. Do I go out of my way to get the rarest variant? Hell no. But hey, one thing that I've noticed on this board is that everybody enjoys vinyl in different ways and for different reasons. Do some of the reasons seem a little stupid? Sure. Is that going to stop me from enjoying my records? Nope. TL;DR- fuckally'allz.gif

Narcissist - doubt intoxicated with alcohol -and Borderline personality disorders right up front (and failed Logic, Business, and Darwinism 101)

Overall, beautiful done!! Thumbs up for those corner protectors!!

If I had the money burning a hole in my pocket, I'd be all over this.

When I was 19, I delivered pizzas for papa johns and one night I delivered a pizza to a local casino/hotel and the guy who ordered it opened the door and said, I don't know how much my total is but I had a great night at the casino so here ya go. He handed me two 100 dollar bills. His total was less than 30 bucks.

I used to see these guys all the time when they were called Smackin Isiah. If you ever want to blow your mind listen to every record both bands have put out in order. The progression is amazing.