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kind of want i wish there was a lotr trilogy vinyl

God damn, you will not quit. According to United's price calculator: 1000 standard weight black LPs in generic DJ sleeves cost $2.09 per unit. If you're only pressing 500, it's $2.82/unit. According to Gotta Groove's price card: $2.20/unit for 1000, $3.10/unit for 500, and that's with no sleeves at all. Other plants' prices are roughly in line with those. That's without premastering, full cover labels, non-generic jackets (gatefold jackets can cost as much as the records themselves) recording costs, and having enough money left over to keep the label's lights on/dump into the next project. I hope this thread doesn't exist just because a guy told you in 2007 that Universal sold 12" singles for $1.50 wholesale. They were that cheap because: 1. It was 2007, and I don't care that you think vinyl was big, the record sales show it wasn't. Digital sales were in their infancy, CDs were still king, and vinyl was for nerds, old fogeys, and DJs. Now, post-"vinyl revival", post-Jack White, post-Record Store Day, pressing plants are slammed 24/7 pressing new special edition copies of Rumours, and prices have gone up. This is 5th grade economics here. 2. Universal owns the whole pipe, from the artist to the studio to the manufacturing (at least, when they used to own plants of their own) to the distribution. 3. 12" singles (at least the kind we're talking about) are more or less all promos, whether they're marked as such or not. They could eat a loss no sweat, because those cheap singles were getting played by DJs and other tastemakers, and that artist's music was getting extra exposure to sell a couple thousand more copies of their album, which had a huge profit margin. For the most part, small labels doing small pressings are doing so because it makes the most sense for them. You keep bringing up Universal, Eminem, Justin Timberlake, as examples of how it should be done, but guess what? Universal has warehouses, huge staff, and hundreds of millions of dollars. Some of these labels you seem to hate are run out of bedrooms, garages, and basements. They don't have the capital or physical space to make thousands of copies of everything they put out just so it never goes out of print. The thing is, I empathize with a lot of the cynicism you hold towards this message board. I hate splatter bullshit, I hate preorders, I hate $20+ single LPs, I hate the fact that people here get excited about Linkin Park and Evanescence and Limp Bizkit reissues and don't give a shit about great new music that's coming out. I think your anger is misplaced, though. This was never an "audiophile"-type vinyl board. It was founded in 2007 by a guy who ran a punk label, when vinyl was just starting to be more of a thing, and it was a place for people with punk/indie/hardcore-type tastes to get more info about what was coming out. Somewhere along the way, it warped into a place where Panic at the Disco has at least 5 separate threads and a guy who works for Hot Topic is revered as a god. But boy you need to take your Valium and stop yelling at a bunch of people who do not care that you like bootlegs or whatever. You hate collector bullshit, that's fine. Welcome to the club. I don't see myself as a collector, but I don't miss out on releases I'm interested in because of people who do. Is it possible that your rage comes from a place of self-loathing, because you have realized that you have the same music tastes as people who keep their records in frames on their walls?

Brock!!!!! Stop using all the bandwidth!!!!!

Not sure if we should be thankful or pissed at the mods for letting this go on for so long.

OP has moved 80 million paragraphs in this thread.

Math isn't your strongest suit, is it? Same with reading comprehension. And any activity that involves the use of brain cells, for that matter.

FARTS

That must suck

I just stumbled upon these pics, loved the idea and thought they are worth sharing:

This is how you spent your entire weekend?

I wonder if stamp collectors have these arguments in their forums. Hmmm

Weirdest pickup line, ever.

That's how I feel EVERY TIME I get a different variant of Reinventing Axl Rose

Oh and now that you're all here, watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e58ws4Z-nw

I'm a Dong Lover fanboy. Very excited for this.

ITT: Crazybeats argues on the internet about why his reasons for buying a piece of plastic are better than others reasons..

This needs to happen.

Looks like Cutler hurt his vagina

I think I Remember that episode of Mythbusters. It was confirmed.

hey op can you do this with your records?????????? didn't think so

who needs economics when you have varients

^^I'm feeling this!

Do any of you actually listen to the music you buy? yes. end thread.

what is listen

I think OP just missed too many pre orders.

Found a .gif of the OP

What the hell? Yo Casey Casey has really let loose.

262 pages later our Madie is still seeking Man Advice. You are the Charlie Brown of Love.

I took my dog for a walk today and he took a shit more prolific than OP is trying to be.

http://statigr.am/p/570306173198063778_353492997 this is mine

I agree. I'd love a dark yellow variant of "The Party Scene." Also wouldn't mind a 7" for "Remembering Sunday"

Technically it'd be secret pilgrim since they're sending stuff to your home and you don't know where it's from.

First off, sympathies to you for writing a long post and lazy people coming in and saying "too many words" as if 2 minutes of consecutive reading is too difficult for them (probably is). However, your argument is as consistent as slimy diarrhea and here's why. You mention (sic) "varients" (the actual spelling is variant) and low press runs. Variants started as a way to reward or motivate early buyers (or direct from label sales), but they have indeed gotten out of hand with the VC generation. Its a cash grab when there are 4 colors pressed at once. But a lot of records are repressed on different colors. So you might complain that the repressings are cashgrabs and you're wrong here. Record pressings have limited runs because smart labels don't want to press more than they can sell. It's better for a label to sell out of a limited run than to be stuck with inventory taking up warehouse space. What you don't understand is that most of the record labels that have been putting out records all through the digital age are smaller, independently run labels. They press how many they can sell. Anything else is bad business. VC has changed a lot over the past year and I'm no longer familiar with this place. But I could tell you that everyone who posted here 2 years ago listened to their records. Also, bootlegging? Get real. The reason most people here buy records is because it sounds better. I've never heard a good sounding bootleg because they're not made from the original masters, they're made from copies, either digital or cassette taped records. Or they're made from molds.

Man, how is it possible that you can type so much text and have it all be so boring and worthless

"You can have a record in any color you want. As long as it's black." - Henry Ford

Yesterday when I was down in Richmond, I snagged: Roadside Monument - My Life is Green - Clear Green 7" OST - Smokey and the Bandit Nice little finds, only $6 total!

The Elder Scrolls Anthology.

You have to buy the juggalo pants, man!

If only hot topic wasn't so narrow minded with the music selections

You won't hear a difference if you just put it in a frame, people.

I would like to hear Get Along. What I heard from the new stuff was okay but I think Lost At Sea was probably their magnum opus. PM me your email adress and I'll send it to you. Have you heard the demo tape? it sounds old, but is pretty good. The Insidious Lie is as good as Lost At Sea or better. I love it.